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07-22-2009, 10:09 PM
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So why did you remark about how he was handcuffed?
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Because I was talking about how he was handcuffed.
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07-22-2009, 10:43 PM
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So why did you remark about how he was handcuffed?
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It was in response to something I had posted. Usually I would give the responding police officers the benefit of the doubt but when I saw the front cuff on the news a red flag went up.
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07-22-2009, 10:49 PM
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Because I was talking about how he was handcuffed.
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So the officer should have recognized that if he could be front cuffed he didn't previously break the law?
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07-22-2009, 10:50 PM
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It was in response to something I had posted. Usually I would give the responding police officers the benefit of the doubt but when I saw the front cuff on the news a red flag went up.
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Why?
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07-22-2009, 10:50 PM
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So the officer should have recognized that if he could be front cuffed he didn't previously break the law?
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07-22-2009, 10:54 PM
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Someone may have already brought it up but, in the police report he WAS originally handcuffed in the front. He let them know that he needed a cane and could not manage that way and the officer asked for another officer to rearrange the cuffs so he would be more comfortable.
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07-22-2009, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL
Someone may have already brought it up but, in the police report he WAS originally handcuffed in the back. He let them know that he needed a cane and could not manage that way and the officer asked for another officer to rearrange the cuffs so he would be more comfortable.
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Makes sense.
ETA: Why is Obama speaking on this? 
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07-23-2009, 02:07 AM
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Makes sense.
ETA: Why is Obama speaking on this? |
Because he couldn't find a Czar to do it for him.
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07-23-2009, 09:05 AM
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Makes sense.
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Because Prof. Ogletree is one of his mentors, and Prof. Ogletree is Gates' attorney?
I agree that the President probably doesn't need to address the issue.
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07-23-2009, 09:18 AM
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Because Prof. Ogletree is one of his mentors, and Prof. Ogletree is Gates' attorney?
I agree that the President probably doesn't need to address the issue.
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As if the media and public opinion hadn't already made this bigger than it needs to be. 
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07-23-2009, 11:07 AM
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ETA: Why is Obama speaking on this?
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Because he wants to and because he can. I don't see what's wrong with it. Presidents don't have to refrain from saying anything when it comes to stuff like this. They just have to be careful. I'm glad he did because I think I would have felt it was in poor taste for him NOT to say anything. He just needs to watch his words, and he doesn't need to say anything more.
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07-23-2009, 11:20 AM
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I'm glad he did because I think I would have felt it was in poor taste for him NOT to say anything.
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Why do you think would it be in poor taste for him to refrain from commenting on a story that has no relevance to his overall message? He didn't comment on any other arrest last night (at least, if he did, I missed it), so why should he comment on this one?
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07-23-2009, 11:21 AM
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As if the media and public opinion hadn't already made this bigger than it needs to be. |
I know - one of my favorite blogs (Above the Law) has had a few postings on it, and we even talked about it in my criminal procedure class last night, in a general manner.
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07-23-2009, 11:23 AM
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Interestingly enough, the arresting officer has the full support of his union. Right now he is upset at Obama's remarks and claims that Obama doesn't know the full story. Officer Crowley is reportedly well-liked and known for giving CPR in the attempt to save the life of Reggie Lewis when he collapsed during his workout.
That's all wonderful. I'm just still puzzled with respect to why Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct when all he did was repeatedly ask the officer for his name and badge number. That's not exactly disorderly conduct, and to date the officer has not given any information that would indicate that Gates was doing anything beyond that.
I'm glad they dropped the charges though.
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07-23-2009, 11:33 AM
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Interestingly enough, the arresting officer has the full support of his union. Right now he is upset at Obama's remarks and claims that Obama doesn't know the full story. Officer Crowley is reportedly well-liked and known for giving CPR in the attempt to save the life of Reggie Lewis when he collapsed during his workout.
That's all wonderful. I'm just still puzzled with respect to why Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct when all he did was repeatedly ask the officer for his name and badge number. That's not exactly disorderly conduct, and to date the officer has not given any information that would indicate that Gates was doing anything beyond that.
I'm glad they dropped the charges though.
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You don't think it's possible that the actual truth might vary from your description here?
I don't think Gates should have been arrested, but I suspect you're ignoring aspects of the police report, aren't you?
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