Lots of questions =/

[angels&angles]

I believe Beta doesn't have a sister sorority, but I heard once that Pi Phi partially based their colors and name off of Beta (Pi Beta Phi / Beta Theta Pi, wine and silver blue / pink and baby blue)? One of the Pi Phi founders was related to a Beta, maybe? Can anyone confirm that?

Although I hasten to add that whatever history the orgs may share, it doesn't guarantee that on any given campus the two chapters will be related (it's a bit like the Monmouth Duo, Farmville Four, Macon Ga stuff -- the orgs histories intertwine, but the individual chapters may or may not get along.)

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by angels&angles

I believe Beta doesn't have a sister sorority, but I heard once that Pi Phi partially based their colors and name off of Beta (Pi Beta Phi / Beta Theta Pi, wine and silver blue / pink and baby blue)? One of the Pi Phi founders was related to a Beta, maybe? Can anyone confirm that?

Although I hasten to add that whatever history the orgs may share, it doesn't guarantee that on any given campus the two chapters will be related (it's a bit like the Monmouth Duo, Farmville Four, Macon Ga stuff -- the orgs histories intertwine, but the individual chapters may or may not get along.)

I'm fairly certain that the above is false.

Also (for the sake for PNMs who may be reading, not picking on you):

Shared history does not equal "sister sorority or brother fraternity."

Example: Just because a Kappa Sigma member is mentioned in our history, does not mean Kappa Sigma is our brother fraternity.

This is one of my bigger pet peeves. You just don't know how many freshman sorority members will say "we learned in NM ed that __ is our brother fraternity."

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I'm fairly certain that the above is false.

Also (for the sake for PNMs who may be reading, not picking on you):

Shared history does not equal "sister sorority or brother fraternity."

Example: Just because a Kappa Sigma member is mentioned in our history, does not mean Kappa Sigma is our brother fraternity.

This is one of my bigger pet peeves. You just don't know how many freshman sorority members will say "we learned in NM ed that __ is our brother fraternity."

Yes, that is a common inaccuracy that is sometimes taught in Theta--FIJI is our brother fraternity (because our founder's brother was FIJI) and Beta is our father fraternity (because the same founder's father was Beta). We hold a special place for those organizations in our hearts because of some shared history but we do not have and have never had a brother or father fraternity. We are indebted to no fraternity.

[OneHeartOneWay]

Although not relevant to the original post, and as I think the notion of sister/brother organizations has been sufficiently dispelled by the above posters, I would like to add a comment about Pi Phi/Beta.

I must preface by saying I am not a member of either organization, so I am very open to the possibility of being wrong. I also don't know the proper term to use, as it isn't a sister/brother relationship, nor really a "shared history," but I was always under the impression that Pi Phi and Sigma Alpha Epsilon were somehow connected. My husband was a founding father of my collegiate campus' SAE chapter, and he has told me they had to learn part of Pi Phi's history because somehow SAE was involved with it. Again, not claiming to know if this is true, just further spreading gossip!