How insulting is Colored (vs. African American)

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

They aren't relatively similar with percentages just as they are not with raw numbers.

Is 25% of 100 the same as 25% of 1000?

86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

JFK high school has 61% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 58% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

JFK high school has 58% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 61% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

that BFF and JFK have similar graduation rates

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

that BFF and JFK have similar graduation rates

I am talking about percentages and not rates, just as the Census educational attainment that you linked is the counts and percentages but not the rates.

(The Census documentation addresses graduation rates.)

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I am talking about percentages and not rates, just as the Census educational attainment that you linked is the counts and percentages but not the rates.

(The Census documentation addresses graduation rates.)

so what's the difference between rates and percentages?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

www.google.com

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/percentage

A proportion or share in relation to a whole; a part

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rate

A measure of a part with respect to a whole; a proportion

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/percentage

A proportion or share in relation to a whole; a part

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rate

A measure of a part with respect to a whole; a proportion

Thefreedictionary is just reminding you that we express rates as percentages. Whether it means the same thing depends on what you're looking at/who you ask. The point is that the Census was reporting counts and percentages in that educational attainment data. It can be converted to rates if you wish.

[deepimpact2]

I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.

No offense, but your post isn't all that "controversial." It's been said many times in many ways by many people on GC.

Sometimes there are just some threads to be avoided...or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

No offense, but your post isn't all that "controversial." It's been said many times in many ways by many people on GC.

Sometimes there are just some threads to be avoided...or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

No offense? Why would that be offensive? When I say controversial, I mean in the sense that some of you like to blow my posts out of proportion even if it HAS been said numerous times already. But despite the fact that it has been said numerous times makes it puzzling that people still do it.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Anywhooooooo, this is a troll thread now and she replied to a troll. LOL.

AND? My reply was also directed at certain other posters whose posts are equally racist. It is pretty obvious when someone has the moniker "angrywhiteman" and only has ONE post, that they are a troll. Duh. What exactly is your point?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

AND? My reply was also directed at certain other posters whose posts are equally racist. It is pretty obvious when someone has the moniker "angrywhiteman" and only has ONE post, that they are a troll. Duh. What exactly is your point?

And I think it's funny. You came in here all after the fact with long overstating-the-obvious posts.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

..or some threads where you need a bottle of aspirin (or alcohol) to get through them.

Why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive?

This from the RM mod? oh god. lol.

ANd in response to DeepImpact

I don't know what you are talking about facebook thing with the republican party. But you seem to be saying all conservatives are racist regardless of race.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I don't know what you are talking about facebook thing with the republican party. But you seem to be saying all conservatives are racist regardless of race.

Do some research and you will see what I referring to about Facebook and the Republican party.

And no, i don't think all conservatives are racist regardless of race. However, I have found that more than a few of the ones in leadership are racist. I would think that over the years with all the prominent Republicans who have been know for spouting racist sentiment or supporting racist legislation, people wouldn't still be questioning whether there is racism in the Republican party.

And it doesn't help that all of the white conservatives that I know are racist. I'm simply speaking from personal experience with respect to that.