How insulting is Colored (vs. African American)

[starang21]

Originally Posted by madmax

most of your people are sitting on their stoops with 5th grade educations and no money who wasted their lives

stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by starang21

stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

I can't believe you went to all that trouble for that idiot lol

[starang21]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I can't believe you went to all that trouble for that idiot lol

www.google.com

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by starang21

www.google.com

That's more than I would have done for him.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You needed Google to direct you to the U.S. Census?

:wassat:

the census website has a litany of articles and tables. why hunt when you can google? sounds like an exercise in futility. work smarter, not harder.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

:wassat:

the census website has a litany of articles and tables. why hunt when you can google? sounds like an exercise in futility. work smarter, not harder.

The Census website is easy to navigate.

Geesh...yeah...statistics wars are a bad idea for a number of reasons. LOL.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The Census website is easy to navigate.

it's easier to google.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

You're no better (perhaps worse)

in what fashion? i post something that isn't an opinion article. can't argue with numbers.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

stats?

http://www.census.gov/population/www...n/cps2008.html

according to these 86 percent of whites and 82 percent of blacks have a high school education.

LOL. Please don't play statistics wars because that is not how it works. I say this without madmax in mind but because I have to say this to people almost everyday.

rant/

Yes, there are more whites than Blacks who only have high school diplomas or GEDs. Yes, there are more whites than Blacks on public assistance and who are unemployed. Yes, when looking at the general crime indices whites are more represented than Blacks.

HOWEVER, whites (of all ethnicities) comprise over 70% of the population. Blacks are disproportionately (over)represented among the undereducated, unemployed, underemployed, and in general crime rates. This is why Black representation in these social problems is not a matter of mere probability statistics but instead community-specific social ailments.

/end rant

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

HOWEVER, whites (of all ethnicities) comprise over 70% of the population.

that's why i posted percentages in lieu of raw numbers. that particular instance, whites and blacks are relatively similar in percentage (5% difference).

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

that's why i posted percentages in lieu of raw numbers. that particular instance, whites and blacks are relatively similar in percentage (5% difference).

They aren't relatively similar with percentages just as they are not with raw numbers.

Is 25% of 100 the same as 25% of 1000?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

They aren't relatively similar with percentages just as they are not with raw numbers.

Is 25% of 100 the same as 25% of 1000?

86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

86/82 = 1.048 percent. 5 percent. pretty similar to me. now if you're talking about something other than high school education, you're probably right. but that's not what i'm talking about.

JFK high school has 61% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 58% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

JFK high school has 58% graduation of an average 3,000 student graduating class.

BFF high school has 61% graduation of an average 200 student graduating class.

How would you substantively interpret that beyond looking at the numbers and the fact that 61 is higher than 58?

that BFF and JFK have similar graduation rates

[deepimpact2]

I'm still puzzled as to why non blacks feel they are entitled to and should weigh in on whether certain words are or should be insulting to blacks.

I'm also puzzled as to why people on these message boards continue getting in to the same tired arguments with each other over race. Let's face it...there are a few things that are generally going to stay consistent:
1. whites are always going to gripe and complain about not being able to call us the "n" word even though some blacks use it as a slang term. for whatever reason they are really upset that they can't call us that word without facing repercussions. go figure.
2. whites are always going to feel that affirmative action is unfair and that it is reverse racism. no matter how many times people try to demonstrate the fact that AA is needed in the first place because of racism, whites will stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is pointed out that blacks are not the only group to benefit from AA whites will refuse to acknowledge this. no matter how many times it is proven that because someone benefits from AA it does not mean they are under qualified, whites are going to refuse to acknowledge this. Give it up.
3. whites are going to continue to gripe that we get to celebrate black history month, completely ignoring the fact that every other month focuses on the accomplishments and historical milestones of whites and other non black races.
4. whites are going to continue to act as though blacks are overly sensitive about race relations.
5. blacks and whites are never going to see eye to eye on racial matters. in fact many whites are going to use Obama's presidency as "proof" that racism no longer exists. again, there's no need to argue. you aren't going to change their minds.

As controversial as my post may be, it needs to be said because there are over two hundred posts in this thread and most of them demonstrate what I am talking about. I used to think that one way of combating racism in society was dialogue between the races. Unfortunately I have learned that most whites in general are going to turn a deaf ear or try to turn things around to show" reverse" racism. To that end...there's just no point anymore.