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07-03-2009, 09:56 PM
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Yes. That's why I said that it was.
I certainly hope you're not referring to Bristol Palin here, because she absolutely has everything to do with the development of her mother's political views. It is exactly her mother's attitude about abstinence-only sex education which is to blame for the multitude of unwanted teen pregnancies in America every year. Shame on Sarah Palin for not doing her job as a mother and making sure her own daughter didn't get knocked up in high school--and heaps of shame on her for trying to ensure that the teenage girls of her constiuents don't receive the education they deserve regarding the options for preventing pregnancy.
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Bristol Palin and her next oldest daughter (who was apparently mistaken for Bristol) were the brunt of tasteless jokes yes.
With regards to abstinence education. Whether someone's parent is for it or against it either way I dont think is too relevant. Sarah is for abstinence education. Okay. Her oldest teenage daughter had premarital sex. Okay. She had an unplanned pregnancy as a result. Okay that happens. Does it make Bristol a bad person because she chose a path different from her mother's and suffered a consequence as a result deserving tasteless comments and jokes? No I dont think so. I may feel differently if Bristol had a sleuth of different partners and/or didnt know the identity of her baby's father (which I saw as a former nurse). I'm not quite getting how the personal decision of her daughter to have premarital sex without parental approval (I am assuming most teens have sex without parental approval/knowledge) make Sarah Palin a bad person worthy of having family members personally attacked in the media. How many of us on here had parents who were no sex until marriage supporters/teachers/believers? Mine were. How many of us agreed or practiced that way of thinking? Did I listen or agree? No. Does that alone make me a bad person worthy of senseless jokes? I dont think so. Did I suffer the consequence of pregnancy as a result of my actions? No, but not all and I suspect a few here are not as lucky, however my husband's first marriage was a result of that consequence. I dont think that makes one's child material for the brunt of jokes. If she was older/more mature and had something to do with Palin's political view/advocacy then maybe okay, but I have not seen evidence of that. Even preacher's/minister's children fall short, make mistakes, and suffer consequences of their actions sometimes, but I wouldnt peg them as incapable of leading their congregations. You deal with it and move on. If one doesnt agree with Sarah Palin's views on premarital sex then by all means attack her views, but dont bring her children into it. That's distasteful.
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07-03-2009, 10:02 PM
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Bristol Palin and her next oldest daughter (who was apparently mistaken for Bristol) were the brunt of tasteless jokes yes.
With regards to abstinence education. Whether someone's parent is for it or against it either way I dont think is too relevant. Sarah is for abstinence education. Okay. Her oldest teenage daughter had premarital sex. Okay. She had an unplanned pregnancy as a result. Okay that happens. Does it make Bristol a bad person because she chose a path different from her mother's and suffered a consequence as a result deserving tasteless comments and jokes? No I dont think so. I may feel differently if Bristol had a sleuth of different partners and/or didnt know the identity of her baby's father (which I saw as a former nurse). I'm not quite getting how the personal decision of her daughter to have premarital sex without parental approval (I am assuming most teens have sex without parental approval/knowledge) make Sarah Palin a bad person worthy of having family members personally attacked in the media. How many of us on here had parents who were no sex until marriage supporters/teachers/believers? Mine were. How many of us agreed or practiced that way of thinking? Did I listen or agree? No. Does that alone make me a bad person worthy of senseless jokes? I dont think so. Did I suffer the consequence of pregnancy as a result of my actions? No, but not all and I suspect a few here are not as lucky, however my husband's first marriage was a result of that consequence. I dont think that makes one's child material for the brunt of jokes. If she was older/more mature and had something to do with Palin's political view/advocacy then maybe okay, but I have not seen evidence of that. Even preacher's/minister's children fall short, make mistakes, and suffer consequences of their actions sometimes, but I wouldnt peg them as incapable of leading their congregations. You deal with it and move on. If one doesnt agree with Sarah Palin's views on premarital sex then by all means attack her views, but dont bring her children into it. That's distasteful.
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Amazing...we burned this bridge back in August all the way up thru election day
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07-03-2009, 10:03 PM
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And the thing that annoyed me was that the people talkest the loudest were the liberals. The ones that are supposed to be about privacy and personal rights. It makes me hates politics.
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07-03-2009, 10:18 PM
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Amazing...we burned this bridge back in August all the way up thru election day
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Alright, consider the dead horse beaten.
Funny how nobody thinks it's in poor taste to feature Bristol Palin in the media as long as she's touting her agenda of wanting to be a teen pregnancy prevention advocate; but one suggestive joke and all of a sudden, she's the victim of her mother's limelight?
Maybe the citizens of Alaska can use Bristol's "sleuth" of partners to solve the mystery of the real reason Sarah's resigning the governorship.
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07-03-2009, 10:21 PM
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While I wasn't a fan of Sarah Palin or her stand on many views, I don't think it's fair to blame her for her daughter's pregnancy. Plenty of women who believe in birth control education end up with daughters who are pregnant.
The reality (right or wrong .. wrong in my opinion) is that every candidate and their family members are under a microscope once they are running for a major office. You have to be pretty tough to endure that. If that's the reason for her resignation, then she definitely doesn't have a thick enough skin to be in politics.
In many ways, I feel the Republican party did this to her. She wasn't ready to run for an office like Vice President and wasn't familiar with what it really takes to make that run successfully. We'll probably never know why they selected someone who wasn't truly ready.
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07-03-2009, 10:25 PM
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While I wasn't a fan of Sarah Palin or her stand on many views, I don't think it's fair to blame her for her daughter's pregnancy. Plenty of women who believe in birth control education end up with daughters who are pregnant.
The reality (right or wrong .. wrong in my opinion) is that every candidate and their family members are under a microscope once they are running for a major office. You have to be pretty tough to endure that. If that's the reason for her resignation, then she definitely doesn't have a thick enough skin to be in politics.
In many ways, I feel the Republican party did this to her. She wasn't ready to run for an office like Vice President and wasn't familiar with what it really takes to make that run successfully. We'll probably never know why they selected someone who wasn't truly ready.
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I still stick with the idea that the GOP wanted to one up the Dems by bringing in an outsider who was a woman.
I think you are right about her having thin skin.
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07-03-2009, 11:43 PM
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LMAO.
so much for her political career.
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07-04-2009, 01:40 AM
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She's my first and only GILF.
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07-04-2009, 02:48 AM
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All reasons she could have left office...
But as has been said, I don't see how resigning will help her run for a more prestigious position later on. If this was her tactic (and maybe she tried to downplay it by breaking the news on a Friday before a holiday weekend), lying about the reason she resigned definitely won't help her gain support in possible future campaigns.
Whatever the reason, I think her explanation of not wanting to be a lame-duck politician was to conceal the real justification for wanting/needing to resign.
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Yea I totally agree.
I wouldn't want to vote for someone for Senate or *eeeep* President who doesn't even have the gumption to finish her term.
I def. feel her "lame duck" thing was a cop out.
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07-04-2009, 03:01 AM
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wasn't there a corruption investigation by the Fed that was gaining steam? Maybe it had something to do with that?
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07-04-2009, 03:09 AM
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Hopefully she goes into porn now
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Hahahaha!! Hilarious!
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07-04-2009, 02:26 PM
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As flawed as the Palins might be, what a crappy human being to do that to the whole other side of his child's family. What is he doing to his kid there?
As far as Sarah Palin's resignation, I really wonder what she's thinking. The only thing that makes sense is that she entirely intends to drop out of public life, but it's hard for me to really believe that's what she is doing.
For her to have succeeded at any other political level, finishing her term as Gov. really seems required, and I say that as someone who, as I remember it anyway, invested a lot of time defending her on GC. Flaking out now without a REALLY good reason seems to make her unsuitable for other posts.
ETA: I can't find a reputable source with any info on a federal indictment. All the stories seem to say, her resignation may be ahead of a federal indictment related to embezzlement charges that were first reported last summer, without any new information. It seems hard for me to believe that if there were something to the charges that it wouldn't have broken as story during the presidential race.
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07-04-2009, 02:39 PM
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The fact that she did this on a "news dump" Friday and a holiday weekend, apparently in hopes that the story wouldn't gain too much traction, makes me think a really big shoe is about to drop.
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07-04-2009, 02:45 PM
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The fact that she did this on a "news dump" Friday and a holiday weekend, apparently in hopes that the story wouldn't gain too much traction, makes me think a really big shoe is about to drop.
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I think that's a reasonable reaction. But the more you think about it, the less logical it really is. (And it could be the Palin camp who isn't thinking that clearly, rather than us.)
If another big story is about to hit, what's the advantage of the news dump now? It's not like there's any way the media is going to say, "oh, Palin was indicted, but she resigned last week, so we're not really going to cover that."
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