What GPA is too low for your campus?

[MaggieXi]

You must have a 2.75 and at least 12 credit hours to go through recruitment at Elon and you must be at least a 2nd semester freshman. Each chapter then has its own grade requirements, I believe. Based soley on my opinion - certain chapters may have higher grade standards then other chapters, which may cause heavier cuts in the beginning.

[UGAalum94]

I guess I can kind of figure this out for myself by look at that average high school GPA of students at the schools. There'd be no reason to think the PNMs would be lower than average.

https://oira.auburn.edu/factbook/enr...ts/newstu.aspx

Auburn’s average enrolled student GPA last year was a 3.69. Wow.

This says Alabama's is a 3.4 http://education.yahoo.com/college/facts/9105.html (It has Auburn's as a 3.5)

Same source with a link at the bottom says Mississippi State is a 3.18. Doesn't have one for Ole Miss. (These admission policies suggest Ole Miss's is likely to be kind of low, comparatively. If you have a 3.2, you don't even need test scores.http://www.olemiss.edu/admissions/fap.html#regad) Says Ga Tech's is a 3.7. Says South Carolina's is a 3.8. Beginning to see a big problem with site's reporting.

[PhoenixAzul]

This may be somewhat dated information, but I believe that at Otterbein you had to have a 3.0 to rush, and because it was deferred that came from your college GPA. Chapters had no way of knowing your GPA (they weren't given that information). If I remember my pledge manual correctly, in my sorority you had to have a 3.0 to activate as well.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

This may be somewhat dated information, but I believe that at Otterbein you had to have a 3.0 to rush, and because it was deferred that came from your college GPA. Chapters had no way of knowing your GPA (they weren't given that information). If I remember my pledge manual correctly, in my sorority you had to have a 3.0 to activate as well.

Are you all locals?

In an NPC recruitment, they'd have to reveal the GPAs, I think, because the individual groups have minimums. ETA: I guess a campus could just set the minimum requirement to rush higher than the lowest required by any group, but that seems unlikely to me.

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Auburn’s average enrolled student GPA last year was a 3.69. Wow.

This says Alabama's is a 3.4 http://education.yahoo.com/college/facts/9105.html (It has Auburn's as a 3.5)

According to that link, UW's (Washington) average admitted freshman GPA was 3.69. I would say that's fairly average for the (freshman) PNMs who come through Recruitment. This is not to say that anyone below that will have an overly difficult time - I have seen quite a few with lower GPAs who receive bids. And as far as I know, there is no minimum GPA to actually go through Recruitment, however, per the norm, each chapter has their own standards.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Are you all locals?

Yes they are. The sororities are, anyway.

[Zillini]

I tell folks to look at Panhellenic average as a general guideline. If grades are higher than that a PNM should be fairly safe from GPA cuts, anyone below may not be.

We also look at SAT/ACT scores in addition to GPA, especially for those HS's we know nothing about (often out of state). A good/bad score won't be enough to keep/cut a PNM with a bad/good GPA, but if someone's on the "bubble" it can help/hurt.

[littleowl33]

On the KKG national website, it states that PNMs must have "a C+ average from the previous completed term at a college or university, [and] many chapters have academic requirements that are higher than the Fraternity’s." To be honest, I don't know exactly what our chapter requires. Without giving away info on MSS, I'll just say PNMs' grades are treated as a very private matter between the Membership Chair and the advisors. Since recruitment is deferred freshmen have a full semester of college under their belt, but Hopkins has a "covered grades" policy in which your first semester grades are all considered pass/fail (though the GPA eventually factors into your cumulative). I think PNMs sign something so that their grades can be "uncovered" for recruitment. In any case, Hopkins has absolutely ZERO grade inflation and it's easy to get overwhelmed first semester, so I would guess chapters are a little more lenient than they might be elsewhere. A lot of freshmen go from getting straight As in high school to something a little... harsher.

[littleowl33]

Originally Posted by Zillini

We also look at SAT/ACT scores in addition to GPA, especially for those HS's we know nothing about (often out of state). A good/bad score won't be enough to keep/cut a PNM with a bad/good GPA, but if someone's on the "bubble" it can help/hurt.

Wow, really? Interesting. Are they required for registration? What if a PNM didn't take the SAT/ACTs?

[AlphaXi_Husky]

Originally Posted by littleowl33

Wow, really? Interesting. Are they required for registration? What if a PNM didn't take the SAT/ACTs?

My guess is they would have to take one of the two in order to get into the school. As for being required, I don't know about that, but my guess is the sorts of "stats" are included on a Recruitment resume.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by littleowl33

Wow, really? Interesting. Are they required for registration? What if a PNM didn't take the SAT/ACTs?

You're rec writer might ask, especially if she was looking for something to offset a low GPA.

[littleowl33]

Originally Posted by AlphaXi_Husky

My guess is they would have to take one of the two in order to get into the school. As for being required, I don't know about that, but my guess is the sorts of "stats" are included on a Recruitment resume.

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

You're rec writer might ask, especially if she was looking for something to offset a low GPA.

Thanks!

The reason I ask is that I do a fair amount of volunteering in Admissions, and there actually are some schools that do not require SAT/ACT... but it's more of a "recommended but not required" thing. Which everyone knows means, "you'd better do it."

Back on track - I can't imagine sifting through SAT scores for PNMs! Our university's recruitment isn't that competitive and we rarely get recs, resumes or anything like that. It would be a helpful component to add, though - particularly if you don't have deferred recruitment.

[annabella]

I love that my alma mater's Panhellenic recruitment form asked for ACT/SAT scores. GPA alone should never be an indicator of someone's potential. A grade cut is a grade cut is a grade cut, but for someone "on the bubble," or from an unfamiliar school, it can help a lot.

Or hurt, depending upon how you want to look at it. A girl graduated from my high school with a 3.5, but only scored a 20 on her ACT (the GPA was a result of heli-momming at its finest). The combination definitely hurt her in recruitment.

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

One of the girls is looking at recruitment at Ole Miss with a 3.0 out of high school.

Is that likely to be a problem with some groups there or is that okay?

To me a 3.0 out of high school today, unless its a realllllly good high school probably, isn't going to equal a 3.0+ in college.

I would say that it just depends on the chapter at Ole Miss. Some chapters also look at the member's ACT/SAT scores too. Also, most PNMs come to Ole Miss from schools we are familiar with so we know if the curriculum is tough.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Do you know anything about the high school? Do the girls in the chapters come from enough of a spectrum that they know which is what? I mean, are the girls in the chapter going to look and say "Trust me, 3.0 at Blue Footed Booby High is like getting a 4.0 at Woody Woodpecker High - BFBH makes you read War & Peace in 7th grade."

Oh big whoop; everybody knows that BFBH lets you read it in English translation.