a fraternity for veterans?

[als463]

Originally Posted by SigEpLegacy

First and foremost, thank you for your dedication to the Nation. For the record, I never had any plans of colonization or anything of that nature. I was interested in peoples thoughts regarding the establishment of such a fraternity. You may be rite regarding my stance on talking to 18 year olds. However, a lot people that I talk to around that age and asks about my tours in Iraq asks "have you killed anyone?" or makes stupid remarks like, "Man, if I was there I would be killing everything." Like being in a freaking warzone is a party or something. That's why I don't tell people I'm in the military when I meet them. I only tell them when asked. Thank you for your insight. It was very helpful.

Yeah, I got questions like that, too. It's because people are curious-we def. can't fault them for that. When someone asks, "So-what was Iraq like?" I say something like, "Hot!" or "Sandy!" That kind of lets them know that I don't want to talk about it. When people say, "Did you kill anyone?" I like to say, "You don't have the proper clearance for that information" because I was an Intelligence Analyst...lol...People will get the idea that it's not something you want them to harp on. Sure, I talked about it during rush but, then I would talk about my love for certain music or the fact that I love to travel. I also talked about being a double major and having a good GPA. Once you get passed the "Wow....you were in Iraq" you find that people are accepting of it. I really hate to say it this way but, honestly-as a Man-you have it much easier going through recruitment saying you are a war veteran than most women....it's a sexist remark and I'll probably get blasted for it...but, it really is true.

Men in the military are seen as "tough" and "cool"...whereas, women in the military are applauded but, unless you have family members who have/ are served/ serving-you might expect something else from an Army woman. If you could've seen the looks on the guys faces when I walked into the room after being bragged about for being a war vet-it was priceless. They said, "We didn't expect that at all." I was short, tan, had long hair, etc. They expected something totally different. They didn't expect such a "feminine" (in their words-not mine) looking war veteran. I'm glad I went through rush and it was the best experience of my life. I've met some great people in both my sorority and in others! I've met some great people on GreekChat that have given some great advice, as well.

So, if you can take my advice (and the advice of others) please change your username because I don't want to see people harassing you for being so ballsy. I think it's great you are a Legacy and I wish you the best of luck in recruitment/ rush (whatever it is they call it for the guys-sorry)!

[navane]

SigEpLegacy,

Every day, I work with military students during the course of my professional employment at San Diego State University. In my experience, my vets have found positive and uplifting ways of connecting with one another, other students and the campus.

When he came to SDSU, one Marine vet felt he was lacking a connection with others who could identify with him. So, he took the initiative to form a campus club called the Student Veteran Organization (SVO). SVO is now going strong and makes a HUGE difference in the lives of our military students by offering camaraderie, support and service. They get prime billing at our campus Veterans Office and actually have a lot of clout. Do consider looking into forming this type of organization. More info here: http://www.svosdsu.org/

SVO is so squared away that they just got approved to offer on-campus housing exclusively for veterans. They will be occupying a vacant fraternity house on SDSU's Fraternity Row. Check it out here: http://www.sdsu.edu/veterans

So, yes, it is possible to find those connections you are seeking without necessarily needing a fraternity specifically for veterans.

If that's not enough, as others have suggested, it is possible to join a [regular] fraternity outright. I currently advise a fraternity chapter - the president is a Marine!

I hope some of this helps!

.....Kelly

[greeksrpansys]

Originally Posted by als463

Yeah, I got questions like that, too. It's because people are curious-we def. can't fault them for that. When someone asks, "So-what was Iraq like?" I say something like, "Hot!" or "Sandy!" That kind of lets them know that I don't want to talk about it. When people say, "Did you kill anyone?" I like to say, "You don't have the proper clearance for that information" because I was an Intelligence Analyst...lol...People will get the idea that it's not something you want them to harp on. Sure, I talked about it during rush but, then I would talk about my love for certain music or the fact that I love to travel. I also talked about being a double major and having a good GPA. Once you get passed the "Wow....you were in Iraq" you find that people are accepting of it. I really hate to say it this way but, honestly-as a Man-you have it much easier going through recruitment saying you are a war veteran than most women....it's a sexist remark and I'll probably get blasted for it...but, it really is true.

Men in the military are seen as "tough" and "cool"...whereas, women in the military are applauded but, unless you have family members who have/ are served/ serving-you might expect something else from an Army woman. If you could've seen the looks on the guys faces when I walked into the room after being bragged about for being a war vet-it was priceless. They said, "We didn't expect that at all." I was short, tan, had long hair, etc. They expected something totally different. They didn't expect such a "feminine" (in their words-not mine) looking war veteran. I'm glad I went through rush and it was the best experience of my life. I've met some great people in both my sorority and in others! I've met some great people on GreekChat that have given some great advice, as well.

So, if you can take my advice (and the advice of others) please change your username because I don't want to see people harassing you for being so ballsy. I think it's great you are a Legacy and I wish you the best of luck in recruitment/ rush (whatever it is they call it for the guys-sorry)!

what did you do in iraq, get fucked in porto john.. yeah you were there, but you cannot relate to seeing your friend wounded. you'd probably flip shit if someone ran over your cat. go eat a dick you pansy

"a real veteran"

[moe.ron]

Too long, didn't read. Give me the cliff note version.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by moe.ron

Too long, didn't read. Give me the cliff note version.

"Chuck" thinks that we're all pansies because we sit at our computers while pledges bring us sodas and we shouldn't disrespect veterans who've seen real hardship and if we had Virginia Tech wouldn't have happened, obviously.

To "Chuck," I'm sorry you didn't get a bid.

[als463]

Originally Posted by greeksrpansys

what did you do in iraq, get fucked in porto john.. yeah you were there, but you cannot relate to seeing your friend wounded. you'd probably flip shit if someone ran over your cat. go eat a dick you pansy

"a real veteran"

As an actual combat veteran, I am pretty disgusted this jackoff would have the audacity to tell me that I am not "a real veteran" because I must not have seen people die. He does not know what I have seen or what I did.

A note for any other "combat veterans" who want to trash talk people who either DID serve overseas in a combat situation or DID NOT-you don't have the right to trash talk people you don't know.

Just because you served time overseas, don't assume you can look down on people who did not. It is pretty pathetic and makes you seem like a loser. So for greeksrpansys-you can kiss my ass!