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05-07-2009, 08:15 AM
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05-07-2009, 09:05 AM
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lolz-- what is it with Vivid offering $1 Million to women during their 15 minutes of fame? First the Octomom, now Prejean... I don't recall them doing that before (not that I paid attention), but it's starting to get a very Larry Flynt-ish feeling to it.
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05-07-2009, 09:18 AM
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lolz-- what is it with Vivid offering $1 Million to women during their 15 minutes of fame? First the Octomom, now Prejean... I don't recall them doing that before (not that I paid attention), but it's starting to get a very Larry Flynt-ish feeling to it.
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maybe they're just doing it to see if they'll take it. Plus it lets them ride the coattails momentarily? hehehe who knows!
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05-07-2009, 10:00 AM
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No, my question hasn't been answered. You and OTW are just typing absolute nonsense. She was asked for her opinion plain and simple. There is no LAW saying that same-sex marriage should be legalized in the remaining states. And if someone asks you what you THINK about a matter, they are asking for your OPINION. 
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She was asked her opinion on whether other states should follow Vermont's (and Iowa's, Massachusetts' and New Hamphire's (?)) lead by legalizing gay marriage. It is quite possible to answer that question without ever stating one's personal opinion on gay marriage, and that is the distinction others are properly making and you are missing. For example:
Well, Perez, I think that the genius of our federal system is that it allows each state to make up its own mind about these things. As Justice Brandeis said, there must be power in the states to remould, through experimentation, our institutions to meet changing social needs, and that one of the "happy incidents" of our federal system that a single state may, if its citizens so choose, serve as a laboratory and try new things without risk to the rest of the country. So I trust the citizens of each state to decide for themselves what course to follow, and I trust that the decisions already made in Vermont and elsewhere -- and the experiences that result from those decisions -- can assist the remaining states in deciding for themselves.
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This is so a portrait of me reading this thread!
Brilliant!!
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05-07-2009, 10:29 AM
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It is quite possible to answer that question without ever stating one's personal opinion on gay marriage, and that is the distinction others are properly making and you are missing. For example: Well, Perez, I think that the genius of our federal system is that it allows each state to make up its own mind about these things. As Justice Brandeis said, there must be power in the states to remould, through experimentation, our institutions to meet changing social needs, and that one of the "happy incidents" of our federal system that a single state may, if its citizens so choose, serve as a laboratory and try new things without risk to the rest of the country. So I trust the citizens of each state to decide for themselves what course to follow, and I trust that the decisions already made in Vermont and elsewhere -- and the experiences that result from those decisions -- can assist the remaining states in deciding for themselves.
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I'm LOLing at imagining MysticCat giving such a great answer as a pageant contestant. 
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05-07-2009, 11:16 AM
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I'm LOLing at imagining MysticCat giving such a great answer as a pageant contestant. 
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me too. that's brilliant!
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Originally Posted by MysticCat
She was asked her opinion on whether other states should follow Vermont's (and Iowa's, Massachusetts' and New Hamphire's (?)) lead by legalizing gay marriage. It is quite possible to answer that question without ever stating one's personal opinion on gay marriage, and that is the distinction others are properly making and you are missing. For example:
Well, Perez, I think that the genius of our federal system is that it allows each state to make up its own mind about these things. As Justice Brandeis said, there must be power in the states to remould, through experimentation, our institutions to meet changing social needs, and that one of the "happy incidents" of our federal system that a single state may, if its citizens so choose, serve as a laboratory and try new things without risk to the rest of the country. So I trust the citizens of each state to decide for themselves what course to follow, and I trust that the decisions already made in Vermont and elsewhere -- and the experiences that result from those decisions -- can assist the remaining states in deciding for themselves.
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This is why I heart you so much - you actually think that the average beauty pagaent queen knows about Justice Brandeis! No one could ever accuse you of misogyny!
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05-07-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MysticCat
She was asked her opinion on whether other states should follow Vermont's (and Iowa's, Massachusetts' and New Hamphire's (?)) lead by legalizing gay marriage. It is quite possible to answer that question without ever stating one's personal opinion on gay marriage, and that is the distinction others are properly making and you are missing. For example:
Well, Perez, I think that the genius of our federal system is that it allows each state to make up its own mind about these things. As Justice Brandeis said, there must be power in the states to remould, through experimentation, our institutions to meet changing social needs, and that one of the "happy incidents" of our federal system that a single state may, if its citizens so choose, serve as a laboratory and try new things without risk to the rest of the country. So I trust the citizens of each state to decide for themselves what course to follow, and I trust that the decisions already made in Vermont and elsewhere -- and the experiences that result from those decisions -- can assist the remaining states in deciding for themselves.
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Haha...this may sound a bit insensitive, but I would be SHOCKED if any pageant contestant gave this type of answer. I think most answers would have included some sort of opinon, whether it was the one given by Miss California, or something along the lines of "I think everyone should have the right to marry."
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05-11-2009, 01:37 AM
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Here's my question. If CA is forced to give up her crown and her 1st runner up takes over, does her 1st runner up automatically take over as 1st runner up for Miss USA?
Honestly, if I competed in Miss USA and was one of the top five I would be royally pissed if some girl who didn't even win the crown (CA) got to be a first runner up (Miss USA) and possibly take the Miss USA crown, if USA wins Universe. To me that wouldn't seem quite fair. But maybe it's just me.
Has anyone participated in pageants or know enough about pageants to answer the question?
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05-11-2009, 02:57 AM
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Here's my question. If CA is forced to give up her crown and her 1st runner up takes over, does her 1st runner up automatically take over as 1st runner up for Miss USA?
Honestly, if I competed in Miss USA and was one of the top five I would be royally pissed if some girl who didn't even win the crown (CA) got to be a first runner up (Miss USA) and possibly take the Miss USA crown, if USA wins Universe. To me that wouldn't seem quite fair. But maybe it's just me.
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I don't think Miss Malibu (the Miss Cali runner up) will be the 1st Runner up of Miss USA.
The whole purpose of having other "runners up" is to have someone to take the place if the person before them can't preform their duties.
So let's say Miss Malibu becomes Miss California. Then Miss USA wins Miss Universe. Since the original Miss California can't preform her duties, the 2nd runner up will step in as the new Miss USA.
That's the way I understood it anyway
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05-11-2009, 04:11 PM
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Has anyone participated in pageants or know enough about pageants to answer the question?
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Alright so I asked a friend, Miss USA does not have a platform. Miss America does.
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05-11-2009, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ASUADPi
Here's my question. If CA is forced to give up her crown and her 1st runner up takes over, does her 1st runner up automatically take over as 1st runner up for Miss USA?
Honestly, if I competed in Miss USA and was one of the top five I would be royally pissed if some girl who didn't even win the crown (CA) got to be a first runner up (Miss USA) and possibly take the Miss USA crown, if USA wins Universe. To me that wouldn't seem quite fair. But maybe it's just me.
Has anyone participated in pageants or know enough about pageants to answer the question?
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If Miss CA USA looses her title Miss CA 1st runner up takes her spot. However if Miss USA wins Miss Universe the Miss USA title would go to the 2nd runner up which would be Miss Arizona USA.
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