Miss California USA posed topless

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

The people in this thread were talking about her choosing to take nude/semi-nude pictures until you brought up the whole "they are really trying to tear her down b/c of what she said" stuff.

Well, to be fair there wasn't much of a discussion since I was only the third post. I agree that this would have been news no matter what, but I do think that her comments are affecting the reaction to the news (which is what Kevin and a couple of others in the thread have also said).

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Well, to be fair there wasn't much of a discussion since I was only the third post. I agree that this would have been news no matter what, but I do think that her comments are affecting the reaction to the news (which is what Kevin and a couple of others in the thread have also said).

There are a lot of people who don't agree with what she had to say, but it just doesn't make sense that people are blaming those who oppose what she said for the pictures and for what may happen to her title.

She agreed to take those pictures. No one else made her. And just like every other girl before her, she needs to own up and hold herself accountable for her actions.

Yea, this is probably a little bit more on the radar than it has been with past beauty queens, but if anything, she sort of did that to herself. She could have said once "yea, I said that. Those are my beliefs" and been done with it - gone back to her Miss Cali duties and it would have blown over in a few weeks, but she chose to catapult herself into the spotlight and went on every interview/appearance that she could.

I'd even go as far as to say that whoever had those photographs probably got a HUGE sum of money b/c she chose to make such a huge media spectacle of herself.

[Senusret I]

Is Perez Hilton any more my gay savior than Jesse Jackson is our black savior? Anybody who even thinks this piece of shit new story is supposed to "help" the "gay cause" needs to get a grip.

She said something dumb and got called out about it and will continue to get called out about it. It's no different from how we/you/I/people treat Blue Bat Shit and Tom Earp around here.

People can do and say what the hell they want to -- if she wants to look like a flat assed wench and be Miss California, then good for her. And if Perez wants to call her out for being stupid, good for him, too.

I don't even know who the reigning Miss USA even IS.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I don't even know who the reigning Miss USA even IS.

That's not bad, I always confuse Miss USA and Miss America. I couldn't tell you the difference.

[JohnnyCash]

I thought nude pictures were a requirement to be a "Miss ______"...

[WCsweet<3]

Alright, so ignoring the entire question controversy, this seems like odd timing to me. If it was an attack by homosexual supporters, wouldn't it have come up earlier? It seems like a long wait to me.

[AGDee]

The bottom line is, you piss off Perez Hilton and ANY skeleton you may have in your closet will be out. Fair? Hell no. But it is the reality of a bizarre sector of society who loves to bring down famous people with vicious gossip.

[agzg]

I don't give a rats about her answer or her pictures. I just want to know why the hell Perez Hilton was a judge.

[Senusret I]

Why is anyone ever a pageant judge? They get people who are celebrity-esque and available.

[AGDee]

I see nothing wrong with those pictures. I see no nudity, nothing that couldn't be shown on TV or that you don't see in a clothing catalogue. As demonstrated, there is no more skin than in the swimsuit competition. I don't think anybody bothers to come up with dirt on the first runner up. Nobody ever cares about the first runner up. The winner, sure! Look at Vanessa Williams, but not the first runner up. The whole thing is silly.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I see nothing wrong with those pictures. I see no nudity, nothing that couldn't be shown on TV or that you don't see in a clothing catalogue. As demonstrated, there is no more skin than in the swimsuit competition. I don't think anybody bothers to come up with dirt on the first runner up. Nobody ever cares about the first runner up. The winner, sure! Look at Vanessa Williams, but not the first runner up. The whole thing is silly.

I agree. The average Victoria's Secret catalog shows about the same amount of skin, yet nobody blasts a woman for shopping there.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I agree. The average Victoria's Secret catalog shows about the same amount of skin, yet nobody blasts a woman for shopping there.

Well, you don't see those Victoria's Secret girls handing out any christian pamphlets either...

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I agree. The average Victoria's Secret catalog shows about the same amount of skin, yet nobody blasts a woman for shopping there.

I absolutely agree, but the Victoria's Secret models didn't sign anything saying they wouldn't be nude or semi-nude

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I absolutely agree, but the Victoria's Secret models didn't sign anything saying they wouldn't be nude or semi-nude

Well if they aren't supposed to appear even semi-nude, then that means that they should do away with the swimsuit portion of the pageant.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Why is anyone ever a pageant judge? They get people who are celebrity-esque and available.

Yep - and it's an easy way to stay relevant and get on TV. It makes sense for all involved.