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[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Tru dat...I also heard that a bet was lost, thus the 'giddiness' at Crabtree's table.

A lost of analysts are still scratching their heads at the Raiders pick and I think that if his hands gets better catching wise, HB may actually turn into a good pick for the Raiders.

Mark my words on this...I dunno why but I think Crabtree may be the 'next T.O.' personality-wise...he has that 'look' about him.

Get back to me in 2 years on that.

What did you think about the Jets grabbing Sanchez?

Crabtree hasn't had any issues though, at least any that were publicized. Plus his college coach (Mike Leach) has had nothing but good things to say about his work ethic and everything else.

A big thing with Bey (no pun intended) is that he really wasn't all that productive in college. If he goes from being an average college receiver to an outstanding NFL guy, good for him. The odds are against him though, more so than with Crabtree or even Maclin (despite his trouble running routes).

The Sanchez deal wasn't a bad one in that they didn't give up a whole lot to get him. I think Clements could be a decent quarterback and would like to see him get a shot somewhere, even if it's not with the Jets.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

A big thing with Bey (no pun intended) is that he really wasn't all that productive in college. If he goes from being an average college receiver to an outstanding NFL guy, good for him. The odds are against him though, more so than with Crabtree or even Maclin (despite his trouble running routes).

he wasn't not productive, IMO. he had decent yards, and receptions. there are recievers that had fewer of both and got picked higher. is maryland a prostyle offense? i don't know, but i think if we look at TTU and the style they play i don't think that it's unfathomable to understand why crabtree had a billion catches.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by starang21

he wasn't not productive, IMO. he had decent yards, and receptions. there are recievers that had fewer of both and got picked higher. is maryland a prostyle offense? i don't know, but i think if we look at TTU and the style they play i don't think that it's unfathomable to understand why crabtree had a billion catches.

Well yeah, the style plays into it too. Plus, there's the issue that Crabtree didn't really have to run many routes in college, so he'll have to adapt to that in the NFL.

There's no guarantee Crabtree is any better than Bey or Maclin or any of the other wideouts, and it's not like he's a slam dunk like Larry Fitzgerald (or even Calvin Johnson) but he at least has a step up on the other guys. Football Outsiders mentioned something about Crabtree catching 94% of the passes that were thrown his way last year. That's a ridiculously high number; looking at that you can figure that he has good hands and can run, and that's a good start towards being a productive NFL receiver.

ETA: I'm not saying Bey will be a failure in the NFL, or even that he was a bad college receiver. Picking him in the top 10 just seems like a bit of a reach.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Well yeah, the style plays into it too. Plus, there's the issue that Crabtree didn't really have to run many routes in college, so he'll have to adapt to that in the NFL.

There's no guarantee Crabtree is any better than Bey or Maclin or any of the other wideouts, and it's not like he's a slam dunk like Larry Fitzgerald (or even Calvin Johnson) but he at least has a step up on the other guys. Football Outsiders mentioned something about Crabtree catching 94% of the passes that were thrown his way last year. That's a ridiculously high number; looking at that you can figure that he has good hands and can run, and that's a good start towards being a productive NFL receiver.

ETA: I'm not saying Bey will be a failure in the NFL, or even that he was a bad college receiver. Picking him in the top 10 just seems like a bit of a reach.

yea, i was pissed initially as well. but it's al davis. he'll pick a 3'1 86 pound midget as long as he gets a sub 4.3 40.

[Lil' Hannah]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

A big thing with Bey (no pun intended) is that he really wasn't all that productive in college. If he goes from being an average college receiver to an outstanding NFL guy, good for him.

It wasn't really so much that he was just an average player with average abilities in college, he was just totally underutilized. He's a solid player though, and I'm excited to see what he does in the NFL. Also, it's Heyward Bey, not just Bey

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Lil' Hannah

It wasn't really so much that he was just an average player with average abilities in college, he was just totally underutilized. He's a solid player though, and I'm excited to see what he does in the NFL. Also, it's Heyward Bey, not just Bey

For some reason I could never remember whether it was spelled "Heyward Bey" or "Hayward Bey," so I've just been using "Bey" for shorthand. Duly noted though .

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

For some reason I could never remember whether it was spelled "Heyward Bey" or "Hayward Bey," so I've just been using "Bey" for shorthand. Duly noted though .

HB works I guess...

Anyone have any thoughts on Stafford?

The Browns trading down the bulk of the draft?

Any trades they foresee happening?