NY Mom kicks kids out of car and drives off.

[honeychile]

If the mother had enforced what she said 8-10 years ago, she wouldn't have had the problems she has now. My mother (winner of the iron hand in the velvet glove award for several consecutive years) would not have done that, but she most certainly would have pulled the car over and demanded silence before continuing. These little darlings will probably need psychiatric care and/or try to emancipate themselves at any time now.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by honeychile

If the mother had enforced what she said 8-10 years ago, she wouldn't have had the problems she has now. My mother (winner of the iron hand in the velvet glove award for several consecutive years) would not have done that, but she most certainly would have pulled the car over and demanded silence before continuing. These little darlings will probably need psychiatric care and/or try to emancipate themselves at any time now.

Or better yet, told thenm before they went out the door, "Act like you got some dayum sense and don't embrrass me."

My mom is a certified spankologist

[paulam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Or better yet, told thenm before they went out the door, "Act like you got some dayum sense and don't embrrass me."

My mom is a certified spankologist

Discipline must begin right away in a loving way. It must happen immediately so a small child attaches consequences to his behavior. My mother had the "look". I would rather she had beaten me than to get that look that said, "I am so disappointed in you." I tried the look on my boys and they fell on the floor laughing!

Anyway, the disappearing mom put both her daughters in danger, even three miles from her home. Predators travel to nice neighborhoods all the time. She could have separated the girls, moving the older one to the front seat. She could have used a reward system for good behavior. Abandoning them will do nothing for the girls, except make them afraid of their weird mother.

That will be $.02!

Paula M
Sigma Delta Tau
Patrae Multi Spes Una
One hope of Many People

[paulam]

Originally Posted by honeychile

If the mother had enforced what she said 8-10 years ago, she wouldn't have had the problems she has now. My mother (winner of the iron hand in the velvet glove award for several consecutive years) would not have done that, but she most certainly would have pulled the car over and demanded silence before continuing. These little darlings will probably need psychiatric care and/or try to emancipate themselves at any time now.

Many years ago, we were dining in a nice restaurant with our two sons who were about 12 and 10. They always behaved well in restaurants because they loved eating out and knew that the only way they could go the next time, was to behave this time.

There was a family sitting at the next table with two boys a little younger than ours. The boys were just terrible. They yelled and were so disruptive. Then they began running through the restaurant forcing the waiters carrying heavy trays laden with hot food to have to dodge them.

I could picture an incident where one of the waiters dropped his tray and burned one or both of the boys and I vowed that I would be a witness for the restaurant when the parents sued!

I gave the mother the "look" that my mother used to give me if I ever (rarely) misbehaved. Her reaction was to shrug her shoulders and grimace as though there was nothing she could do about her childrens' reprehensible behavior. It was not the fault of these poor kids. The inmates ran that asylum. I wonder what happened to them now that they are grown.

Parents do not their children any favors by bringing them into the world and then throwing them out into society for the rest of us to deal with. There is no owner's manual but there are books and parenting classes and friends and family if a parent doesn't know how to gain control of his or her child while there is still time to mold him or her into a civilized, productive member of society.

So "mommy dearest" is a high powered lawyer. Big deal. She is a total failure as a parent, the most important job she will ever have. How sad.

Paula M.
Sigma Delta Tau
Patrae Multi Spes Una
One Hope of Many People

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by paulam

So "mommy dearest" is a high powered lawyer. Big deal. She is a total failure as a parent, the most important job she will ever have. How sad.

Save the histrionics -- a total failure as a parent she is not.

[honeychile]

Paluam, I so understand you! I had the wonderful opportunity to be in a restaurant when a little boy started to really act up. His father spoke to him once, and the second time, the fther marched him out of the restaurant, and we could see Daddy scold Bad Son outside.

Eventually, they both came back in, and the little boy stopped at all the tables near their table and said, "I'm sorry I ruined your dinner."

I happened to run into the father as we were leaving, and told him that there needs to be more fathers like him. He thanked me and said that if he didn't follow up on what he had told his son what he was going to do, the son would never learn to listen to him.

I wanted to applaud!

[PM_Mama00]

My nephew is the typical 4 year old boy. There are times when he acts up and he definitely gets punished for it. When he's good, he's really good and polite. I think sometimes it's just in their genes. My brother apparently was a terror when he was younger. Everyone says this is his payback.

[paulam]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Paluam, I so understand you! I had the wonderful opportunity to be in a restaurant when a little boy started to really act up. His father spoke to him once, and the second time, the fther marched him out of the restaurant, and we could see Daddy scold Bad Son outside.

Eventually, they both came back in, and the little boy stopped at all the tables near their table and said, "I'm sorry I ruined your dinner."

I happened to run into the father as we were leaving, and told him that there needs to be more fathers like him. He thanked me and said that if he didn't follow up on what he had told his son what he was going to do, the son would never learn to listen to him.

I wanted to applaud!

What a great father and what a lucky little boy.

It only takes a moment for a predator to pick up a child out on the street. Why would anyone think this woman was a good mother for placing her children in that position? When she learned the 10 year old was missing, she seemed to realize something terrible could have happened to her child. If she were so wonderful, she would not have placed her daughter in danger. To me that is failing your child.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by paulam

What a great father and what a lucky little boy.

It only takes a moment for a predator to pick up a child out on the street. Why would anyone think this woman was a good mother for placing her children in that position? When she learned the 10 year old was missing, she seemed to realize something terrible could have happened to her child. If she were so wonderful, she would not have placed her daughter in danger. To me that is failing your child.

Why would anyone think she was a TOTAL FAILURE either?

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Why would anyone think she was a TOTAL FAILURE either?

Because she failed. Totally.

I hope she's never allowed to be around children again.

[nikki1920]

Originally Posted by paulam

What a great father and what a lucky little boy.

It only takes a moment for a predator to pick up a child out on the street. Why would anyone think this woman was a good mother for placing her children in that position? When she learned the 10 year old was missing, she seemed to realize something terrible could have happened to her child. If she were so wonderful, she would not have placed her daughter in danger. To me that is failing your child.

To me, that is teaching your child consequences. To say she is a total failure as a parent is being extreme, BASED ON THIS ONE INCIDENT. A predator can pick up a child at home, at school, anywhere. This, hopefully, was a one time incident. Mom got tired (imagine that!) of talking, kids knew she wouldn't follow through, Mom switched it up on them. I say it's creative parenting.

Tomayto, tomahto.

Yes, Susan Smith is a total failure.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by paulam

So "mommy dearest" is a high powered lawyer. Big deal. She is a total failure as a parent, the most important job she will ever have. How sad.

You're going a tad strong there with the "total failure" talk, aren't you? I mean, at most, she may have made a poor decision here. But to call her a "total failure" is ridiculous and exaggerated, at best.