If Hazing is Wrong, what's a better alternative?

[Forgotten Zeta]

my chapter has been "dormant" since 1991. i pledged much later and made the best decision of my life when i chose to pledge there. i've seen what the other fraternities called brotherhood. it was nothing compared to what was evident as soon as i met the brothers of my organization. since you don't know the reasons for the dormant status, i find it hard to believe that you can judge what goes on there. i'm still extremely close to every brother that i met while there and large numbers of alumni that were there long before me. that's brotherhood, not just a college experience but a lifetime bond that we have and instill into our pledge classes. hazing is an extremely loose term, and is not the reason that we became "dormant" to begin with. we have thrived long after our national hq left us based on our ideals of brotherhood, alumni support, the support of other chapters, and a desire to not let something that meant so much to so many die. i have never been beaten or publicly humiliated, that is dumb and something that we would never do to somebody who we would want to call brother. don't try to throw me into the mix with some of these other orgs who make the news because of death and alcohol poisoning. i simply said that making something more difficult than a little memorization makes it more worthwhile in my point of view. there's a reason that we have a choice when it comes to choosing what organization we affiliate with.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Zeta

you know what, i had responded to your idiocy, but now that i think about it. your not even worth the explanation. i pledged, not joined, pledged in 1999 and the chapter has been dormant according to nationals since 1991. the brothers that caused it, were not around when i was there, and the fact that it is still going strong is testament to how worthwhile our brothers are.

Wouldn't this count as a response?

Guess I hit a sore subject. Silly me...

[Forgotten Zeta]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Wouldn't this count as a response?

Guess I hit a sore subject. Silly me...

thats why i changed it

[Kansas City]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Zeta

my chapter has been "dormant" since 1991. i pledged much later and made the best decision of my life when i chose to pledge there. i've seen what the other fraternities called brotherhood. it was nothing compared to what was evident as soon as i met the brothers of my organization. since you don't know the reasons for the dormant status, i find it hard to believe that you can judge what goes on there. i'm still extremely close to every brother that i met while there and large numbers of alumni that were there long before me. that's brotherhood, not just a college experience but a lifetime bond that we have and instill into our pledge classes. hazing is an extremely loose term, and is not the reason that we became "dormant" to begin with. we have thrived long after our national hq left us based on our ideals of brotherhood, alumni support, the support of other chapters, and a desire to not let something that meant so much to so many die. i have never been beaten or publicly humiliated, that is dumb and something that we would never do to somebody who we would want to call brother. don't try to throw me into the mix with some of these other orgs who make the news because of death and alcohol poisoning. i simply said that making something more difficult than a little memorization makes it more worthwhile in my point of view. there's a reason that we have a choice when it comes to choosing what organization we affiliate with.

What exactly do you mean by "dormant"? Is your chapter recognized as a local fraternity by the university or are you working on becoming active again with your former HQ?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kansas City

What exactly do you mean by "dormant"? Is your chapter recognized as a local fraternity by the university or are you working on becoming active again with your former HQ?

His chapter -- the former Lambda Xi chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha -- lost its charter in 1991. It is not recognized by Slippery Rock University.

Here's the GC thread on it.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Kansas City

What exactly do you mean by "dormant"? Is your chapter recognized as a local fraternity by the university or are you working on becoming active again with your former HQ?

My guess would be that he pledged underground.