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03-21-2009, 01:54 PM
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He probably wouldn't be successful at it, but all it would take is an attempt on his part to cause a war.
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And it would take Israel less than 6 days to shut him down, we've been there 6 YEARS.
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03-22-2009, 02:24 AM
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And it would take Israel less than 6 days to shut him down, we've been there 6 YEARS.
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There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.
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03-22-2009, 05:32 PM
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There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.
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I said that to make a point. I'm glad you at least got the reference, so why do you seem so uneducated about what is going on now?
I give Bush credit, credit for killing innocent Iraqi civilians. Credit for becoming the aggressor and making military moves based on false accusations. Credit for making America the laughing stock of the world. Credit for taking a balanced budget with a surplus, and turning it into a financial crisis. Is that the type of credit you think he deserves, because that is all the credit I will give him.
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03-22-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zephyrus
There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.
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Originally Posted by kstar
I said that to make a point. I'm glad you at least got the reference, so why do you seem so uneducated about what is going on now?
I give Bush credit, credit for killing innocent Iraqi civilians. Credit for becoming the aggressor and making military moves based on false accusations. Credit for making America the laughing stock of the world. Credit for taking a balanced budget with a surplus, and turning it into a financial crisis. Is that the type of credit you think he deserves, because that is all the credit I will give him.
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It's interesting watching two extremists go at it, haha.
Last edited by KSigkid; 03-22-2009 at 05:56 PM.
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03-23-2009, 01:13 AM
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I said that to make a point. I'm glad you at least got the reference, so why do you seem so uneducated about what is going on now?
I give Bush credit, credit for killing innocent Iraqi civilians. Credit for becoming the aggressor and making military moves based on false accusations. Credit for making America the laughing stock of the world. Credit for taking a balanced budget with a surplus, and turning it into a financial crisis. Is that the type of credit you think he deserves, because that is all the credit I will give him.
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I don't give a shit why you said it, your fcking point still didn't change my opinion. You don't have a fking clue. Really you don't. Uneducated? That's laughable. You come on here posting bullshit about how it's a life or death situation if someone in your family has a different political perspective than yours. Well, FCK YOU!! After I read that shit you posted I don't even know why I read this post or responded to it. You don't like Bush's policies. So fking what. I do. If Bush never got rid of Saddam, I know the whole mideast conflict would be a lot more fcked up than it is now. I'll give it 15-20 years and ficktards like you will learn to appreciate Bush's decision making.
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03-23-2009, 12:19 PM
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If Bush never got rid of Saddam, I know the whole mideast conflict would be a lot more fcked up than it is now. I'll give it 15-20 years and ficktards like you will learn to appreciate Bush's decision making.
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Actually no. The situation in the Middle East was tense, but had not escalated into outright war, and most likely would not have for a great period of time. There was an even power distribution. Because of Bush's LIES (that Saddam had WMDs) there is now a power vacuole which will be filled. Likely involving another war.
The US will not stay in Iraq like they stayed in Germany, they will pull out like they did in Vietman and Korea. The key difference is that the German people were not oppressed and most welcomed the occupiers because of that. Like in Vietnam, we have made the Iraqis second class citizens in their own nation. We have interrupted their democratic elections, we have detained their citizens and transported them out of their country, sometimes without proof of any wrongdoing. The Iraqis do not want us there, and I think that when we will be withdrawing from Iraq, it will be under gun fire.
Also, when you say that Saddam would have attacked Israel, most Israelis don't think that he would have. In fact, they were against starting a war with Iraq without further proof of WMDs. Yes, they did support the US once the war started, but they were against starting the war with the current proof. (P.S. I'm a dual US/Israeli passport holder. Right of return, ftw.)
It is a sign of the uneducated to resort to ad hominem attacks when someone provides a case against their side. That and the fact that you had to resort to swearing makes my point for me that you are uneducated.
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03-28-2009, 03:23 AM
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Actually no. The situation in the Middle East was tense, but had not escalated into outright war, and most likely would not have for a great period of time. There was an even power distribution. Because of Bush's LIES (that Saddam had WMDs) there is now a power vacuole which will be filled. Likely involving another war.
The US will not stay in Iraq like they stayed in Germany, they will pull out like they did in Vietman and Korea. The key difference is that the German people were not oppressed and most welcomed the occupiers because of that. Like in Vietnam, we have made the Iraqis second class citizens in their own nation. We have interrupted their democratic elections, we have detained their citizens and transported them out of their country, sometimes without proof of any wrongdoing. The Iraqis do not want us there, and I think that when we will be withdrawing from Iraq, it will be under gun fire.
Also, when you say that Saddam would have attacked Israel, most Israelis don't think that he would have. In fact, they were against starting a war with Iraq without further proof of WMDs. Yes, they did support the US once the war started, but they were against starting the war with the current proof. (P.S. I'm a dual US/Israeli passport holder. Right of return, ftw.)
It is a sign of the uneducated to resort to ad hominem attacks when someone provides a case against their side. That and the fact that you had to resort to swearing makes my point for me that you are uneducated.
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Hominem attacks? WTF??? WTF was your bullshit fucking sarcasm about?
Do you even know what would happen if we left Iraq? Do you?
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03-28-2009, 04:52 AM
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Hominem attacks? WTF??? WTF was your bullshit fucking sarcasm about?
Do you even know what would happen if we left Iraq? Do you?
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What? Send their WMD within 45 minutes into Europe? You do realized that most of the WMD inteligence was given by Challabi, who was a paid agent of the Iranian government. In another word, Bush was dupped into invading Iraq by the Iranian. Well, that is one of the theory out there.
Is it necessary for you to curse? What would your mother say young man?
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