America's Happiest and Most Depressed Cities

justabeachbrat · #1 03-05-2009, 04:56 PM

Lived in Portland, briefly. I couldn't get used to the bridges, At first. I was always on the wrong bridge. And alot of homeless camping. Some of the homeless were young-ish, kicked out or just left, middle classs homes.

Fresno...It is fine in some areas right near Fresno State, getting the football stadium next to school helped, and next to it, central Clovis, is cute. An area where students used to live, just beyond Greek houses has really gone sown. Downtown, no. Everyone I knew avoided it in college. Donald Trump and his group gave up on the place a year or so ago, problems with demands I think the city put on plans to revamp an area into a golf course. It needs something.

Honolulu, and all of Hawaii, always good times there.

Every time I've driven through El Paso I found it depressing. Rather than take pill, kept going.

epchick · #2 03-05-2009, 05:16 PM

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Every time I've driven through El Paso I found it depressing. Rather than take pill, kept going.

Why? I mean there isn't any green here, but that is what happens when you live in a desert. I don't find it that bad.

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El Paso as #2 happiest. NO. There are some good things about EP but with all the stuff going on across the boarder and spilling over it is not happy.

That poll was from 2005, there wasn't anything like that happening in Juarez back then.

flirt5721 · #3 03-06-2009, 01:43 AM

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That poll was from 2005, there wasn't anything like that happening in Juarez back then.

Yeah there was just not as bad as is it now.

epchick · #4 03-06-2009, 02:08 PM

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Yeah there was just not as bad as is it now.

I don't even know what you are talking about. Juarez in '05 was NOT bad at all, shoot Juarez up to the invasion of the Sonoran drug cartel wasn't bad. It was safe for people to walk around, I used to go to Juarez all the time and I never felt like my life was in danger. As for now, El Paso isn't bad at all (and although Pika2001 might have some more insight, there is not much "spilling over").

PiKA2001 · #5 03-09-2009, 06:44 PM

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I don't even know what you are talking about. Juarez in '05 was NOT bad at all, shoot Juarez up to the invasion of the Sonoran drug cartel wasn't bad. It was safe for people to walk around, I used to go to Juarez all the time and I never felt like my life was in danger. As for now, El Paso isn't bad at all (and although Pika2001 might have some more insight, there is not much "spilling over").

The violence hasn't spilled over YET in El Paso but the fact that the cartels have operatives, money, and weapons within the city makes it probable that it could. If the mexican military actually do choke out the cartels in Juarez they may start operations here, or maybe head to another border town like reynosa or nuevo laredo, who knows. I did read that the Gov was thinking about returning the national guard to the border if any major cartel violence did come north.

PeppyGPhiB · #6 03-09-2009, 07:22 PM

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The violence hasn't spilled over YET in El Paso but the fact that the cartels have operatives, money, and weapons within the city makes it probable that it could. If the mexican military actually do choke out the cartels in Juarez they may start operations here, or maybe head to another border town like reynosa or nuevo laredo, who knows. I did read that the Gov was thinking about returning the national guard to the border if any major cartel violence did come north.

When I saw this story today, I thought of you guys and this thread.

epchick · #7 03-09-2009, 08:02 PM

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The violence hasn't spilled over YET in El Paso but the fact that the cartels have operatives, money, and weapons within the city makes it probable that it could. If the mexican military actually do choke out the cartels in Juarez they may start operations here, or maybe head to another border town like reynosa or nuevo laredo, who knows. I did read that the Gov was thinking about returning the national guard to the border if any major cartel violence did come north.

Ahh, thanks for the info!

I don't think the Mexican military can do anything to the cartels, especially when so many are involved with the drugs. I laughed when the El Paso Times and the news stations said that the violence in Juarez plummetted when the 3000+ military came in. I just kept thinking, it's plummetting cause the cartel is more concerned about getting the military involved with them, than killing anyone.

The violence is bound to spill over especially since El Paso is allowing people like the mayor of Juarez & all those other "high ranking officials" to live in El Paso b/c they fear for their life.

It's not the best outlook, but i'm glad that El Paso isn't like Laredo or Phoenix or cities close to the border. We've managed to keep out the cartel.

flirt5721 · #8 03-10-2009, 11:41 AM

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I don't even know what you are talking about. Juarez in '05 was NOT bad at all, shoot Juarez up to the invasion of the Sonoran drug cartel wasn't bad. It was safe for people to walk around, I used to go to Juarez all the time and I never felt like my life was in danger. As for now, El Paso isn't bad at all (and although Pika2001 might have some more insight, there is not much "spilling over").

Juarez in '05 was ok. There still was a few things going on but not as bad as now. I'll admit I loved going to Juarez to visit family and going shopping and go to clubs up until a year ago. But now even with the military there, there is less of a chance for me to go. The Mexican military is to be trusted as much as the cartels. I say this from experience by having my cousin murdered by them just in Nov. I will say that I have no problem going to the southern part of Mexico but the northern part of Mexico I will not go to until the military is out and the cartels can be managed but I really doubt that is going to happen anytime soon. As for anything spilling over into EP I agree with epchick as long as the high ranking officials are living there and also the connection with Barrio Azteca and Los Aztecas things are bound to happen.

Thetagirl218 · #9 03-10-2009, 09:48 PM

I don't agree with the new list....Jacksonville is much less depressing than Tampa Bay....