Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe

[I.A.S.K.]

Was I the only person who felt like Jindal was supposed to be the GOPs version of Obama?
The way he looks
The body language he used
The structure of his speech
The style of his speech
The content of his speech

Im willing to bet MC Stee-Lo was behind this one. I dont understand the new GOP leadership's idea that taking what is successful for others and immitating it will make the GOP successful. Epic Fail!

At many points while watching Jindal emulate Obama I realized that his attempt at Obama's educated northerner crossed with southern preacher/activist speech style is why he sounded like a Pre-K teacher. Then many of his comments seemed to me like him saying "We need to do what President Obama says we need to do, but do it our way puh-leeze!" The whole thing appeared...just desperate.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Was I the only person who felt like Jindal was supposed to be the GOPs version of Obama?
The way he looks
The body language he used
The structure of his speech
The style of his speech
The content of his speech

Im willing to bet MC Stee-Lo was behind this one. I dont understand the new GOP leadership's idea that taking what is successful for others and immitating it will make the GOP successful. Epic Fail!

At many points while watching Jindal emulate Obama I realized that his attempt at Obama's educated northerner crossed with southern preacher/activist speech style is why he sounded like a Pre-K teacher. Then many of his comments seemed to me like him saying "We need to do what President Obama says we need to do, but do it our way puh-leeze!" The whole thing appeared...just desperate.

It was like an SNL skit.

But some of Obama's speeches are like SNL skits to me.

Perhaps they were trying to give the people what they seem to want. Or maybe they were poking fun.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

At many points while watching Jindal emulate Obama I realized that his attempt at Obama's educated northerner crossed with southern preacher/activist speech style is why he sounded like a Pre-K teacher. Then many of his comments seemed to me like him saying "We need to do what President Obama says we need to do, but do it our way puh-leeze!" The whole thing appeared...just desperate.

The delivery wasn't great, but what he said, I more-less agree with.

Then again, I'm a member of Jindal's party. I'm guessing you're not.

Bear in mind that what Obama and Jindal said was written by speech writers and tested on focus groups. It was anything but contemporaneous and it was anything but meaningful. These sorts of speeches serve one purpose only -- to win public support. These speeches are really a sideshow though, not really important at all.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It was like an SNL skit.

But some of Obama's speeches are like SNL skits to me.

Perhaps they were trying to give the people what they seem to want. Or maybe they were poking fun.

Yeah. It was like a SNL skit without the humor.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

No.

LOL! Dead.

Originally Posted by Kevin

The delivery wasn't great, but what he said, I more-less agree with.

Then again, I'm a member of Jindal's party. I'm guessing you're not.

Im not a member of his party. Nor am I a member of President Obama's party. I agree more with our president's party right now though. I was disappointed with Jindal's speech because there were not many clear, stark differences like those that used to exist. Jindal and the GOP seemed to be trying to emulate Obama more so than trying to give serious objective conservative solutions to the crisis we're in. Any good content that may have existed in Jindal's speech was so thoroughly diluted by his imitation that it was probably missed by many people and it was a waste.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Yeah. It was like a SNL skit without the humor.

There's humor in all of this political stuff.

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Im not a member of his party. Nor am I a member of President Obama's party.

Kick ass! Same here.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There's humor in all of this political stuff.


Kick ass! Same here.

I can watch Obama and laugh at his speech style and how it seems so played to me at times, but Jindal's funny wore off way too quickly for me.

LOL @ kick ass! Yeah I know. Our party is the best party.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Jindal's

Am I the only person who sings Arrested Development's "Mr. Wendell" everytime I read this? Probably.

Oh...I don't want to have hateration when it comes to Obama and Mr. Jindal because I do see substance in what both were saying. I have the attention span of a puppy though.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Am I the only person who sings Arrested Development's "Mr. Wendell" everytime I read this? Probably.
Yes. You are the only one. I sing the Rubber Ducky song by Ernie because I think Jindal sounds like him.
Oh...I don't want to have hateration when it comes to Obama and Mr. Jindal because I do see substance in what both were saying. I have the attention span of a puppy though.

Hella LOL @ bolded!

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Was I the only person who felt like Jindal was supposed to be the GOPs version of Obama?
The way he looks
The body language he used
The structure of his speech
The style of his speech
The content of his speech

Im willing to bet MC Stee-Lo was behind this one. I dont understand the new GOP leadership's idea that taking what is successful for others and immitating it will make the GOP successful. Epic Fail!

At many points while watching Jindal emulate Obama I realized that his attempt at Obama's educated northerner crossed with southern preacher/activist speech style is why he sounded like a Pre-K teacher. Then many of his comments seemed to me like him saying "We need to do what President Obama says we need to do, but do it our way puh-leeze!" The whole thing appeared...just desperate.

That's not how I saw it at all - but then again, like Kevin, I'm in Jindal's party (and a big fan of his, at that), so assign any biases you wish to my interpretation. I agree with what he was saying, I just wish the delivery was better.

Also, Jindal wasn't "attempting" to be "educated." The guy is educated and pretty darn smart, which is a key distinction from "attempting" to appear educated.

I really hope the party isn't looking for its "Obama." There are a lot of us who, if we wanted Obama, we would have voted for him in this election. What we want is a smart conservative who's not going to tax and spend.

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

That's not how I saw it at all - but then again, like Kevin, I'm in Jindal's party (and a big fan of his, at that), so assign any biases you wish to my interpretation. I agree with what he was saying, I just wish the delivery was better.

Also, Jindal wasn't "attempting" to be "educated." The guy is educated and pretty darn smart, which is a key distinction from "attempting" to appear educated.

I really hope the party isn't looking for its "Obama." There are a lot of us who, if we wanted Obama, we would have voted for him in this election. What we want is a smart conservative who's not going to tax and spend.

@ underlined
Maybe if the delivery was better I'd be able to get a better feel for where the GOP is trying to go right now.

@ bolded
Did you understand what I said?

@ Purple
I do too. I just think they are. Especially with Mike Steele at the helm.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

That's not how I saw it at all - but then again, like Kevin, I'm in Jindal's party (and a big fan of his, at that), so assign any biases you wish to my interpretation. I agree with what he was saying, I just wish the delivery was better.

Ditto here to everything. I just think he was over-coached. I first remember seeing/hearing him last year during the Presidential primary season. I was so impressed with the fact that he answered every single question thrown at him with little to no spin or diversion. He always seemed to say exactly what he meant and very eloquently.

Perhaps he is just better suited to unrehearsed discussion rather than practiced, teleprompter speeches. Opposite - in my opinion - of President Obama's style.

My personal beliefs on government are much more in line with Jindal's - the less government intervention into the market, the better. Americans, by and large, should be able to take care of themselves.

[DrPhil]

I think they are all overcoached.

The Dems just seem to hide it better than the Repubs. The way-too-obvious Palin coaching sessions were hilarious.