Why are questioning PNMs consistently demonized here?

[APhiAnna]

Although I think some PNMs comments are ridiculous, I think in general people are too rude. I don't understand how some people can bemoan the fact that some sororities will pick on PNMs for not being rich/hot/outgoing enough, and call them elitist, but then they adopt the same elitist, pretentious and bitchy attitude towards people whose problem is that they don't know enough about GLOs or haven't been on Greek Chat for over 5 years. I normally don't care and it's never affected me personally, but I'll point out hypocrisy when I see it. To me I don't see the difference between a hot, blonde, Phi Beta Popular (to steal a recent cute name from somebodies thread haha!) saying that she doesn't care if she cuts ugly/poor girls and a GC member who says they don't care if people think they are rude. I think it's the exact same thing, and at least have the courage to step up to the plate and own up to it.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by APhiAnna

Although I think some PNMs comments are ridiculous, I think in general people are too rude. I don't understand how some people can bemoan the fact that some sororities will pick on PNMs for not being rich/hot/outgoing enough, and call them elitist, but then they adopt the same elitist, pretentious and bitchy attitude towards people whose problem is that they don't know enough about GLOs or haven't been on Greek Chat for over 5 years. I normally don't care and it's never affected me personally, but I'll point out hypocrisy when I see it. To me I don't see the difference between a hot, blonde, Phi Beta Popular (to steal a recent cute name from somebodies thread haha!) saying that she doesn't care if she cuts ugly/poor girls and a GC member who says they don't care if people think they are rude. I think it's the exact same thing, and at least have the courage to step up to the plate and own up to it.

So I don't know if it's because I'm almost in a Mexican-food induced coma, but your last few sentences do not make sense. WTH are you talking about? Who isn't "stepping up to the plate" and what aren't they "owning?" And how the heck are those two 'scenarios' the same?

[APhiAnna]

Originally Posted by epchick

So I don't know if it's because I'm almost in a Mexican-food induced coma, but your last few sentences do not make sense. WTH are you talking about? Who isn't "stepping up to the plate" and what aren't they "owning?" And how the heck are those two 'scenarios' the same?

I think at GC, everybody is Panhellenic and doesn't like the fact that some girls in top tier chapters can be, at times, catty and rude to PNMs, other chapters, etc. Many women on GC are, by their own admission, from chapters that struggled with recruitment and numbers and are very vocal about women being bitchy, starting rumors, etc because their chapters were very hurt by these rude actions. Essentially, they bemoan the fact (and rightly so) that these girls are campus "mean girls" and that it harms the Panhellenic community and specific chapters.

However, some people will say that in one post and then be the Greek Chat "mean girls" themselves and be rude to anybody they feel like it. Their excuses ("just deal with it, we're not changing") are identical to the excuses that those rude top tier girls use.

I see a lot of the same exclusivity, pretentiousness, self-congratulation, and quite frankly, tremendous insecurity, between the women who cut PNMs for exceedingly superficial reasons and start rumors and the women who gang up on random people with rude statements here.

I don't see how this connection is far fetched at all. In fact, I don't think it is. If people don't want to see it, or admit it, they won't.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by epchick

So I don't know if it's because I'm almost in a Mexican-food induced coma, but your last few sentences do not make sense. WTH are you talking about? Who isn't "stepping up to the plate" and what aren't they "owning?" And how the heck are those two 'scenarios' the same?

Yes, where are these threads where NPC members are gleefully discussing cutting pnms for not being thin/rich enough? And are these mysterious GCers established posters, or trolls looking for trouble? I have somehow missed these threads . . .

[APhiAnna]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Yes, where are these threads where NPC members are gleefully discussing cutting pnms for not being thin/rich enough? And are these mysterious GCers established posters, or trolls looking for trouble? I have somehow missed these threads . . .

There aren't any, because that wasn't in my message. I said that there are constant threads where GC members mention how wrong it is for NPC members to make superficial cuts, start rumors about other chapters, for PNMs to act like chapters are beneath them, etc. Essentially, being "mean girls". I am saying that the only differences between those women that nearly all GC members (including me!) are criticizing, and the select GC posters that post constant rude posts to everybody on this site, are purely situational. The attitude, however, is definitely the same exclusive, rude just to be rude, pretentious and insecure "mean girl" phenomenon. And the excuses, "Just deal with it" are the same that both parties would make. Once again, I don't necessarily think this is an unfair or difficult point to make.

And before somebody tells me to just leave GC, they are missing the point because 95% of the women here make very enjoyable posts, many without "sugarcoating" or "blowing sunshine up somebodies ass" (which I think is also wrong). And before somebody misconstrues my post as ludicrous, I think that most of the population understands what I am trying to say, so at this point I'm just starting to assume that people don't want to understand what I am saying.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by APhiAnna

And before somebody tells me to just leave GC, they are missing the point because 95% of the women here make very enjoyable posts, many without "sugarcoating" or "blowing sunshine up somebodies ass" (which I think is also wrong).

Not to toot my own horn, but I'd like to think I've mastered the art of being honest with PNMs without being an outright bitch to them.

However, I feel like if a PNM is going to dish out rudeness, I can do that too.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

However, I feel like if a PNM is going to dish out rudeness, I can do that too.

Yes, I’ve noticed a few snarky comments from your end as of late. I only notice because other people will point it out. I haven’t been on this site too long, but I know that for you to be “rude” is rare.

Need advice? Ask KSUviolet06. She’ll be as nice as possible until she just can’t take your crap anymore.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Yes, I’ve noticed a few snarky comments from your end as of late. I only notice because other people will point it out. I haven’t been on this site too long, but I know that for you to be “rude” is rare.

Need advice? Ask KSUviolet06. She’ll be as nice as possible until she just can’t take your crap anymore.

To be honest, I've been around this site for awhile, and I find that 99% of the ladies on GC are the same way. If you ask in a non-rude manner, you'll get a non-rude response.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Need advice? Ask KSUviolet06. She’ll be as nice as possible until she just can’t take your crap anymore.

This is a perfect quote for a signature. And so true!

[APhiAnna]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Not to toot my own horn, but I'd like to think I've mastered the art of being honest with PNMs without being an outright bitch to them.

However, I feel like if a PNM is going to dish out rudeness, I can do that too.

Toot away, I agree with you completely. I think you are very fair. And if a PNM is rude, then I understand it's natural for most to strike back. But I feel that the women I'm talking about will find any opportunity to act rude, many times not even to PNMs or Helicopter Moms.

[FSUZeta]

[QUOTE=KSUViolet06;1777378][COLOR="Magenta"]Not to toot my own horn, but I'd like to think I've mastered the art of being honest with PNMs without being an outright bitch to them.




you are one of the best!