Depression (the disease, not the economy) - Page 5

DrPhil · #1 02-04-2009, 02:11 AM

Yikes.

And...score.

libramunoz · #2 02-04-2009, 02:14 AM

Doc, we get each other on the point. Yeah, it's just about Knowing that you're different, but still trying to be the same.
It's like when I first moved to this country assed town (yes, it's very country to the point of having a stop sign and a blinking light at the center of town), I felt "normal" but people felt that we (my brother and I) were different because we werent' raised here and because of our last names, and because we were from Cali-fornie-ia. We felt "normal" but the society around us acted as though we'd just came here from the Oregon Trail and needed to pack mules and oxen to get us to school everyday in the covered wagon.
It's just about being normal knowing that there is something that...well...is a little bit different about you.

DrPhil · #3 02-04-2009, 02:29 AM

"I'm just trynna help, Ike."

"What?! You trynna help Ike?! Ike don't need no help!!"

libramunoz · #4 02-04-2009, 02:30 AM

Doc, Doc, Doc! LOL!

DrPhil · #5 02-04-2009, 02:56 AM

Oh goodness gracious. There's so much Twilight Zone stuff going on.

I.A.S.K. · #6 02-04-2009, 03:02 AM

Would anyone mind taking off the extraness gloves to get back to the discussion about depression? Or is this thread just shot to hell?

So, for the people who are depressed or have been did any of you consider not taking any meds? Did you not take them and then later decide to take them? I've never been depressed so I don't know as much about the feeling and the need for or dislike of meds.

libramunoz · #7 02-04-2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Would anyone mind taking off the extraness gloves to get back to the discussion about depression? Or is this thread just shot to hell?

So, for the people who are depressed or have been did any of you consider not taking any meds? Did you not take them and then later decide to take them? I've never been depressed so I don't know as much about the feeling and the need for or dislike of meds.

Hopefully this thread isn't shot to hell--it's just off on it's own tanget for a minute.

I didn't consider taking any meds at the time because I was taking care of two cousins (4 and 13) and was trying to help my Mom run the farm as well as take care of my in/out (drugs) cousin (who was the mother of the 4 year old). I just didn't have the time to go back and forth to the doctor.
After the kids left, I was without a job and I didn't have the insurance that I needed to get help. That is one problem where I live. It's a very small town and there is no MHMR center close. I think the nearest one is is Waco and that's 50 miles away. With no job, I didn't have any gas, and I was just trying to make sure that I could keep my lights on, water on, and make sure that if I had a job interview, I could scrape up enough money to get back and forth.
For me, I know that I had stopped going to church and that I know had a negative influence on me and my life at that time. But one day God's presence became the best medicine for me and I was able to keep going.

AKA_Monet · #8 02-04-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

Would anyone mind taking off the extraness gloves to get back to the discussion about depression? Or is this thread just shot to hell?

So, for the people who are depressed or have been did any of you consider not taking any meds? Did you not take them and then later decide to take them? I've never been depressed so I don't know as much about the feeling and the need for or dislike of meds.

Sorry sweetheart, I use to be able to flip the script to all seriousness, but I cannot let a bad thread down... LOL...

To answer you question though: I take meds. I have to take them to live from day to day. I can decide not to take them and within 2 weeks or less, I will be spending money like I have some, painting my house a crazy color and every other word a 4 letter one... Then I will drop faster than a roller coaster and want to hurt myself because I cannot understand what happened to me and why I am the worst person the world...

I thought I grow out of it, but now I have hit perimenopause, and it has gotten worse... Don't think it will ever get better. When I am up, the back of my head lights up, but I cannot see the light head on... When I am low, I cry, sleep and eat.

There are quite a few of us on GC. They have the choice to come forward. But for their protection, I am not recommending it.

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #9 02-04-2009, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I take meds. I have to take them to live from day to day. I can decide not to take them and within 2 weeks or less, I will be spending money like I have some, painting my house a crazy color and every other word a 4 letter one... Then I will drop faster than a roller coaster and want to hurt myself because I cannot understand what happened to me and why I am the worst person the world...

I'm really glad you found a med that works. It's hard sometimes to find one that gives you results, but it sounds like you found one.

It's nice to have the OPTION to be on meds or to not be on meds.

HotDamnImAPhiMu · #10 02-04-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.

So, for the people who are depressed or have been did any of you consider not taking any meds? Did you not take them and then later decide to take them? I've never been depressed so I don't know as much about the feeling and the need for or dislike of meds.

I've been depressed two other times, once in HS and once in college. I didn't take meds either time.

I felt like taking medication would be just numbing myself to my own problems. I didn't want to take a drug that altered the way my brain worked. I didn't want to OFFICIALLY be labeled as "depressed". I felt that if I tried hard enough, I could will myself out of depression.

Therapists will work with you if you choose not to use medication to control your depression. Mine says she has a couple patients like that - they've decided drugs aren't for them (one of them is pregnant, the others have their own reasons) and the therapist is helping them do the best they can with what they've got.

This time, I tried therapy alone before I resorted to antidepressants. It didn't help much. I couldn't fix things by myself. I let my doctor talk me into antidepressants because my depression was taking over my whole life, and nothing I did (therapy, extra exercise, talking with friends) helped.

Depression is a chemical imbalance, and the chemicals in my brain were so out of whack I didn't have a chance at getting better by myself. Kind of like when you take an antibiotic - it kills most of the germs, but in the end, your body has to heal itself. But taking penicillin (or whatever) puts you on a level playing field. I needed help getting to a level playing field so I could fight the depression off by myself.

There's also herbal remedies for depression, which have varying degrees of effectiveness. St. John's Wart is one of them, fish oil capsules are another, but I can't think of any others right now. I tried St. John's Wart before I tried prescription drugs and I didn't think it worked at all - but it must work for somebody. (Sidenote: St. John's Wart makes birth control pills less effective. Just FYI.)

Thanks for asking.

libramunoz · #11 02-04-2009, 03:23 AM

Monet,
If you have some of the same issues, why didn't you just become willing to say so and move on?
It's like the drunk coming down on another drunk for drinking.
Why allow yourself and this cycle to be so futile?
Girl, just be true to yourself and the rest will follow.

AKA_Monet · #12 02-04-2009, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Monet,
If you have some of the same issues, why didn't you just become willing to say so and move on?
It's like the drunk coming down on another drunk for drinking.
Why allow yourself and this cycle to be so futile?
Girl, just be true to yourself and the rest will follow.

Glutton for punishment? IDK? Maybe I did not want to see you suffer the same kind of torture I was put under online and I strongly try to protect those who suffer from mental anguish...

libramunoz · #13 02-04-2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Glutton for punishment? IDK? Maybe I did not see you suffer the same kind of torture I was put under and I strongly try to protect those who suffer from mental anguish...

Monet, I understand what you are saying, and no one needs to be put through any kind of torture. However, some people are just willing to say what's happened to them in their lives and they're o.k. with it.
Thank you for the concern and but I'm o.k. with it.

libramunoz · #14 02-04-2009, 03:26 AM

Girl, do I need to spell it out?
Let it go and just move on. I don't have a problem in moving on hell I'd like to but don't act like you just can't let it G-O.
But just realize that I didn't see you pushing me either.

AKA_Monet · #15 02-04-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by libramunoz

Girl, do I need to spell it out?
Let it go and just move on. I don't have a problem in moving on hell I'd like to but don't act like you just can't let it G-O.
But just realize that I didn't see you pushing me either.

Can't you see I cannot "let it go" for whatever reason... That's like a giving a coke addict crack and telling them to switch back to coke...

I have lost all dignity here... So, this is a futile effort to explain to me otherwise...