Elderly man freezes to death in home

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Nope. Read it. It doesn't explain how much power the limiter gave the guy. It doesn't explain whether it allows a certain amount of consistent limited use, which a way to allow a space heater or something to run but not central heat (and which would shut off power completely if exceeded)OR if it is a wattage or dollar about limit that shuts down the power when that amount total is used.

And further, knowing that temperatures were below freezing when they found him doesn't really have anything to do with anything since we know that the limiter had already shut the power off.

Are you expecting a schematic layout of what the limiter does, in that article?

Wow...it's almost academic !!

What aren't you seeing?

The Limiter:
Schur owed Bay City Electric Light & Power more than $1,000 in unpaid electric bills, Bay City Manager Robert Belleman told The Associated Press on Monday.

A city utility worker had installed a "limiter" device to restrict the use of electricity at Schur's home on Jan. 13, said Belleman. The device limits power reaching a home and blows out like a fuse if consumption rises past a set level. Power is not restored until the device is reset.

I am not seeing how you can't figure out how this whole thing works and why you need such a detailed explanation as to how this killed him. It says right there in that passage, "It blows like a fuse." What happens when a fuse blows? NO POWER AT ALL.

It doesn't matter how much was getting to the home, the point IS...once the lights went out, everything else went down hill with it...including his life.

Michigan which one can guess at this time of the year is MUCH colder than say...Florida?

Anyone here from Michigan can give us an avg temp for this time of year?

Everything else is really simple.

The man owed on his bill and is 93 years old ...they put the limiter on and once the time passed...POOF NO POWER NO HEAT... once the power went out, it's almost easy to figure out that the temps quickly dropped in his home thereby killing him from hypothermia.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Are you expecting a schematic layout of what the limiter does, in that article?

Wow...it's almost academic !!

What aren't you seeing?

The Limiter:
Schur owed Bay City Electric Light & Power more than $1,000 in unpaid electric bills, Bay City Manager Robert Belleman told The Associated Press on Monday.

A city utility worker had installed a "limiter" device to restrict the use of electricity at Schur's home on Jan. 13, said Belleman. The device limits power reaching a home and blows out like a fuse if consumption rises past a set level. Power is not restored until the device is reset.

I am not seeing how you can't figure out how this whole thing works and why you need such a detailed explanation as to how this killed him. It says right there in that passage, "It blows like a fuse." What happens when a fuse blows? NO POWER AT ALL.

It doesn't matter how much was getting to the home, the point IS...once the lights went out, everything else went down hill with it...including his life.

Michigan which one can guess at this time of the year is MUCH colder than say...Florida?

Anyone here from Michigan can give us an avg temp for this time of year?

Everything else is really simple.

The man owed on his bill and is 93 years old ...they put the limiter on and once the time passed...POOF NO POWER NO HEAT... once the power went out, it's almost easy to figure out that the temps quickly dropped in his home thereby killing him from hypothermia.

It's not that you don't know what particularly happened that bugs me; it's that you are condescending when you don't even grasp what's being asked.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

It's not that you don't know what particularly happened that bugs me; it's that you are condescending when you don't even grasp what's being asked.

That's because you are asking for too much out of an article that was straight to the point about how he died.


It's a news article, not an eletrical engineering report.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

That's because you are asking for too much out of an article that was straight to the point about how he died.


It's a news article, not an eletrical engineering report.

Go back and read. You will see that you were the one who suggested that all information one might want about the limiter was in the article. It was I who asked the good people of GreekChat "What's the idea of the limiter? Would it be enough to run your heat?"

And as you can now see, AGDee answered my question.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Go back and read. You will see that you were the one who suggested that all information one might want about the limiter was in the article. It was I who asked the good people of GreekChat "What's the idea of the limiter? Would it be enough to run your heat?"

And as you can now see, AGDee answered my question.

I thought it was pretty clear in the article AND I asked AGDEE to clarify since she has more experience.

That is why you have your answer.

Can't break it down to ya much more than that....

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I thought it was pretty clear in the article AND I asked AGDEE to clarify since she has more experience.

That is why you have your answer.

That's an interesting take on what unfolded between us in this thread, but if it makes you happy. . . .

On second thought, you are clearly delusional. How do you think AGDee was responding to you. Did you personal message her because you sure didn't ask for clarification here.

I know that you enjoy the personal squabble over who is responsible for whatever misunderstanding you've usually caused, but think I'm done with you here.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

That's an interesting take on what unfolded between us in this thread, but if it makes you happy. . . .

I was unaware that we had anything between us...

**shudders**

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Anyone here from Michigan can give us an avg temp for this time of year?.

Effin cold. I'd say average is between 10 and 20, though it seems we've been in the low double digits to single digits most of this winter. They said we'd have an Indian winter. Where is it?

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I thought most utility providers had a special program, or at least some sort of forbearance, for people who were elderly, infirm, or who always needed electricity/running water/etc. Basically, ConEd can't turn off someone's power if they are elderly, have babies, or have an illness that requires electricity. I figured most places would have it as well.

Don't think we have ConEd around here, and I'm not sure that Michigan has this law or program. I wish they did though. It really hurts thinking about this man and him sitting there so helpless. I really wish he had passed naturally and that's maybe why he didn't try calling for help or anything, and that he didn't suffer.

[madmax]

The guy lived 93 years. His time was up. It is a non story.




I am glad when we have a good cold spell to clean the bums out of the park.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Classic.

You are done but you went back and did all that cutting and pasting...are u satisfied now?