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Originally Posted by 33girl
Nice. 
And for the record, I meant the Loyola alum newspaper, not anything from KBG. It's a better way to reach alumni in general, for ALL Greek groups. Then again, considering how KBG was treated by the school, it's debatable they would have printed it. It seems like a very weird (and by weird I mean rotten) attitude for a religious-affiliated school to take towards a group who was founded with that religious affiliation. |
Actually, an article did go out in the Loyola alum newspaper. The big, bad jesuits who hate KBG allowed it. Its actually a magazine, and it goes out four times a year, so they probably didn't find out right away. The magazine went out in December and we were disaffiliated at this point. We affiliated with KKG in January. But if they get the newspaper and read it, then they knew. Let me just point out that every little suggestion you've offered we actually did. We couldn't really have done anything else short of storming headquarters and demanding a list and then flying out to each individual and knocking on their door...and I'm sorry we didn't do that, but everyone actually involved in the situation was satisfied. I suppose I could track down people now, just to make you happy, but then again, I don't really feel a need to appease someone who jumps into other people's business, acting like she knows what's going on when she is not a member of Kappa, has not been to our school, and is not a member of KBG, saying horrible things about a chapter, their national organization, a University, their Panhel, and now apparently, the jesuit institution as a whole.
I didn't come on here to fight with people or anything like that. You're acting as if we were SO excited to throw our KBG letters in a burning pile. It was a very difficult decision for us to disaffiliate from a group that we had once respected, but in our eyes, and from the looks of it, the F&M KBGs, we were completely alone. For us, it was either sink or swim and we had to make a decision to get out. At the rate things were, the KBG chapter would be closing around this time anyway, due to lack of support and interest.
You act as if we were such disloyal hypocrites, but you're missing something huge. We were NOT the only group that felt this way. The problem was not with us, but with the national organization of KBG. We were not demanding ridiculous things. We definitely didn't ask for a house. In fact, Kappa has offered to buy us a house, but the school administration who is still not hugely supportive of greek life refuses.
We are not perfect. Neither is any NPC. We are not "better" than KBG. We are not above any organization. As members of national, NPC organizations, you really can't understand the situation we were in. We did what was best for us. I'm sorry that you think otherwise, and I am deeply saddened by the fact that you are now against Kappa, our institution, and our members, but as I said earlier: we took a risk. We knew that not everyone would agree with our decision, but our members, and members of kappa across the US have supported our decision, and in the end, that's all that really matters.
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Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE
First, let me say that I am enlightened by this KBG/LUC and KBG/F&M scenario.
I saw the listing in the bulletin and decided it was someone elses trainwreck.
I believe the # of applications for consideration was closer to 6. Ten to eleven may have inquired but submitting extensionn materials is a time consuming process plus an expense for creating materials and shipping them. It would be public knowledge who presented so you could post that here (it would be in panhel minutes which are not secret). Who submitted would not be, it may be in some of our files (not mine, I didn't apply nor did I follow up on it) but that would not be common knowledge for anyone.
Again, thank you for putting the other side into perspective.
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I checked with our current house chair, and she informed me that we had materials from 10 NPC groups. And I suppose I could post who presented, but whats the point? So we can discuss how those organizations are terrible as well?
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