recruitment at UT

[mtm]

One additional question. Is there any advantage to suiciding and if not, why is it done? Thanks. I am trying to determing if it is worthwhile for my daughter to go through the process again.

[BadCat25]

mtm
It sounds like your daughter was crosscut. This happens when the chapter your daughter ranks No 1 has her down their bid list and fills up to quota before her name comes up. The chapter your daughter ranks No 2 fills up to quota with PNMs who rank them No 1 before your daughters name comes up. It doesn't mean that either chapter didn't like her. It doesn't happen very often and many schools have bid rules to prevent this from happening.
A suicide bid never increases your chances of receiving a bid although some PNMs believe that it does. The only reason anyone should do it is if you would only join that one chapter and would not join the other chapters under any circumstances.
As far as going through the process again you should be aware that at schools with a competative rush it rarely works out very well. She might be better off to look into opportunities for informal recruitment. At most colleges there are a few chapters that do that.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by BadCat25

mtm
It sounds like your daughter was crosscut. This happens when the chapter your daughter ranks No 1 has her down their bid list and fills up to quota before her name comes up. The chapter your daughter ranks No 2 fills up to quota with PNMs who rank them No 1 before your daughters name comes up. It doesn't mean that either chapter didn't like her. It doesn't happen very often and many schools have bid rules to prevent this from happening.

When people say "cross cut" they may mean different things. It is a myth that the order a PNM ranks her chapters determines whether she gets a bid or not. It depends where a PNM is on the chapters' bid lists. For example, suppose a PNM ranks Alpha first and Beta second, but she is on the second bid list of Alpha and the first bid list of Beta. Some people believe that a PNM would be "cross cut" unless the PNM ranks Beta first because Beta will fill their pledge class with PNMs who ranked them first. Not true. The PNM's "place" is held in Beta until she matches elsewhere. If Alpha fills their pledge class before they get to this PNM's name, she will match with Beta if she is high enough there. PNM's get "cross cut" if they are not high enough on EITHER chapters' bid lists. However, many schools will make every attempt to match a PNM who maximizes her options via quota additions if she does not match with the initial bid matching.

[lyrelyre]

Originally Posted by BadCat25

mtm
It sounds like your daughter was crosscut. This happens when the chapter your daughter ranks No 1 has her down their bid list and fills up to quota before her name comes up. The chapter your daughter ranks No 2 fills up to quota with PNMs who rank them No 1 before your daughters name comes up. It doesn't mean that either chapter didn't like her. It doesn't happen very often and many schools have bid rules to prevent this from happening.

Originally Posted by violetpretty

When people say "cross cut" they may mean different things. It is a myth that the order a PNM ranks her chapters determines whether she gets a bid or not. It depends where a PNM is on the chapters' bid lists. For example, suppose a PNM ranks Alpha first and Beta second, but she is on the second bid list of Alpha and the first bid list of Beta. Some people believe that a PNM would be "cross cut" unless the PNM ranks Beta first because Beta will fill their pledge class with PNMs who ranked them first. Not true. The PNM's "place" is held in Beta until she matches elsewhere. If Alpha fills their pledge class before they get to this PNM's name, she will match with Beta if she is high enough there. PNM's get "cross cut" if they are not high enough on EITHER chapters' bid lists. However, many schools will make every attempt to match a PNM who maximizes her options via quota additions if she does not match with the initial bid matching.

Thank you! I don't know why I have this irrational hatred of the term "cross cut." It's just one of those recruitment "myths" that won't die.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by mtm

One additional question. Is there any advantage to suiciding and if not, why is it done? Thanks. I am trying to determing if it is worthwhile for my daughter to go through the process again.

Something to think about, at a school like IU, it generally is more difficult to get a bid the second time around. I'm assuming she will be a sophomore next year, and sophs have a harder time at recruitment than freshmen do.

If there are informal recruitment opportunities, she could look into those.