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[WVU alpha phi]

I just watched this week's episode last night. Raquel are her friends are so lame. It was obvious they were trying to be so cool by claiming how drunk they were, but if anything, they were acting slightly tipsy, not hammered. It's like Raquel wants people to think you're this awesome 18 year old party girl, but no one cares about her drinking habits! It's just pathetic that she tries to show that off.

I was absolutely disgusted by Gretchen and Ryan. First off, Ryan looks like a creep who would put something in a girl's drink to bring her home. He lurks around those doorways and leers at girls- freak! He is NOT attractive and I've thought from last season that he was gay. Or just waaaaay too into his mom. He has grinded on her in past episodes and he finally admitted this week that he thought she was hot. And his "give me a hug first" line to Gretchen was so cliche- what girl hasn't heard something similiar from a guy trying to hook up with her?

Also, I thought Tamra should've exiled Ryan from the party. Yeah he's 22 and an adult but if he's hitting on your friends, kick him out! Maybe the West Coast or the OC has some laid back lifestyle, but I'd be reemed out by my parents if I was hitting on guests at their dinner party. Tamra should've stepped up and played the Mom card and told him to leave. That whole family is just disgusting.

Really hating Vicky and Tamra this season. They're such catty bitches. I wasn't a Lynne fan before, and I'm still not entirely, but I liked that she and Frank stepped up to the plate and offered to drive Gretchen home. If only Tamra had taken them up on it! Seems like she just wanted to give Gretchen all access to Ryan so she could turn it into a huge drama later.

[Benzgirl]

This was hidden on the Top Chef blog...



Brian Malarkey's Blog


16th Minute of Fame!

Jan 14, 2009 1:35 PM
Andy Warhol said everyone gets his or her 15 minutes of fame - well we had a lot of fame abuse on the "Naked Wasted" episode of RHOC.


When Bravo and the ladies came calling for me to take a nice drive up to OC and throw a dinner party, I thought, "I'll take another minute." I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I've never really watched the show, but I figured I knew what it was all about. I was so wrong. I was always curious about how they shoot these types of shows - are they scripted? Where do the camera and sound crews hide, etc.? I learned that it is impossible to script something as wild as an episode with these ladies. When the cameras start rolling - and they are rolling from the minute the ladies walk through the front door - all hell breaks loose. Now you see, I was on Top Chef to of course exploit my cooking skills, skills being the key word here, and myself. These ladies are exploiting themselves for popularity (cheap fame) and this is achieved by doing the outrageous.

I was in the kitchen focusing on the multi-course dinner I was preparing and I didn't realize all of the drama that was going on just a few steps away. Now I knew Gretchen was extremely drunk and making a mess of herself on camera for the whole nation to see, but I didn't know that Tamra, Simon and Ryan were plotting it all along. I thought Tamra and Simon were really great to work with, but I must say I was not impressed with the way they went after Gretchen. Now I'm not going to say I didn't think she had it coming, but this was over the top and sending Ryan after her was just wrong on so many levels. I mentioned I was curious as to where they hid the camera - well they don't hide the cameras. Cameras are everywhere and Ryan loves them. The crew was following him all over as he pawed at the defenseless Gretchen, which reminded me of the Hyena (I was going to say Lion, but Ryan is much more of a Hyena) hunting the Gazelle. And for the record, he didn't make a single drink that night.



The rest of the group that wasn't involved in the deterioration of Gretchen had a great dinner and were very curious about the food and wine. Vicki is really a sweetheart - yes, a loud sweetheart, but definitely sweet. Jeana almost seems as if she is over trying to compete with these wild blondes for airtime and Lynne was looking like she wanted to get out of there ASAP. Maybe she's got a date with the doobies.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

And for the record, he didn't make a single drink that night.

If he was in there cooking all this "delicious" food, how does he know? I didn't like Brian on Top Chef and he isn't winning any points with me now. Technically, pouring a tequila shot is "making" a drink. Plus he did make those pink drinks that Gretchen and Simon (lol) were drinking while eating the oysters.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I just watched this week's episode last night. Raquel are her friends are so lame. It was obvious they were trying to be so cool by claiming how drunk they were, but if anything, they were acting slightly tipsy, not hammered. It's like Raquel wants people to think you're this awesome 18 year old party girl, but no one cares about her drinking habits! It's just pathetic that she tries to show that off.

OMG. Raquel & friends= so not drunk.

Lynne and hubby are very naive if they seriously think that neither Raquel nor Alexa would never steal their wine.

[SapphireSphinx9]

Alright... First, thank you to benzgirl for posting Brian's blog - interesting to read the opinion of someone who was actually there & not part of their scene.

This season has made me really detest Tamra.

Vicky's seriously getting on my nerves, too... But that's a-whole-nother story.


I like Gretchen, and anyone who's had someone very close to you loose their fight with cancer, can understand where she's coming from (ie. visiting her family at Bass Lake over 4th of July, drinking to get away from reality for even just a little bit, etc).

Getting on to this last episode:
I understand that no one "forced" her to drink... She is an adult and has to take responsibility for her actions... But Tamra and Ryan definitely plotted to ruin Gretchen that night, and that is just plain evil, no matter how you look at it.

She needs to go!

[WVU alpha phi]

I thought last night's episode was pretty good. It turned me into a Lynne fan- I totally agreed with her being in shock over how Jeana and Vicki were being at lunch with Gretchen. It's none of their business to know who the beneficiaries are in Jeff's will, and Gretchen didn't seem like it bothered her all that much, so why should they care? Lynne was completely right to say that she'd never bring up "how much money are you leaving me?" while someone is on their death bed! I just couldn't believe how tacky the entire conversation was. They just wouldn't let it drop that she needed to find out about his will and make sure she was left money so she was 'taken care of'. For all the gold digging comments they dropped earlier in the season, it sure didn't seem like Gretchen was after Jeff's money last night!

Also, what was with the lack of parenting during the pool party? Did anyone else notice the 20some 8 year olds playing in the water while the parents all drank with their backs towards the pool? I've known how to swim since I was little, but my parents ALWAYS kept an eye on me when I was in the water!

Ryan.. just go away. He shouldn't be allowed to bartend, I wouldn't want that guy anywhere near my drink!

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I thought last night's episode was pretty good. It turned me into a Lynne fan- I totally agreed with her being in shock over how Jeana and Vicki were being at lunch with Gretchen. It's none of their business to know who the beneficiaries are in Jeff's will.

I KNOW! I always have thought that discussing money-related matters like this, or asking someone about it was considered rude. I guess these women don't know that.

I agree with you on the lack of parenting thing. My mom saw that and was like "Oh my God, there's an accident waiting to happen."

I noticed that there were little kids with them when they were drinking in Havasu too.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I thought last night's episode was pretty good. It turned me into a Lynne fan- I totally agreed with her being in shock over how Jeana and Vicki were being at lunch with Gretchen. It's none of their business to know who the beneficiaries are in Jeff's will, and Gretchen didn't seem like it bothered her all that much, so why should they care? Lynne was completely right to say that she'd never bring up "how much money are you leaving me?" while someone is on their death bed! I just couldn't believe how tacky the entire conversation was. They just wouldn't let it drop that she needed to find out about his will and make sure she was left money so she was 'taken care of'. For all the gold digging comments they dropped earlier in the season, it sure didn't seem like Gretchen was after Jeff's money last night!

Ehhh i disagree. Although Lynn had a point, so did Jeana and Vicki. I didn't take their comments as being a golddigger. Lynn and Vicki were coming from two different aspects, and although Vicki could see Lynn's side, Lynn either couldn't or refused to see Vicki's.

The fact is that Gretchen & Jeff aren't married, and Gretchen isn't working. If Jeff (lets assume we are talking as if he hasn't died) passed and didn't leave Gretchen as the beneficiary, then she'd be SOL. How would she pay the mortgage on that house they have? How would she make any payments on anything? Where would she live? Vicki was coming at it from a more business mindset, I mean she is in the insurance business, I bet she has seen this often.

Lynn comes at it from, experiencing it with her husband. But her husband LIVED, Gretchen's didn't. Plus Lynn was married at the time her husband got cancer, she doesn't understand Gretchen's position.

It's called being realistic, not being a golddigger.


i'm over Gretchen, her dumb "sex" comments have irked me. First she said that her & Jeff have sex while he is in the hospital....then at the dinner party she made a comment about how she hasn't had sex in 8 months. Come on Gretch, which is it? Get it together.

[WVU alpha phi]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ehhh i disagree. Although Lynn had a point, so did Jeana and Vicki. I didn't take their comments as being a golddigger. Lynn and Vicki were coming from two different aspects, and although Vicki could see Lynn's side, Lynn either couldn't or refused to see Vicki's.

The fact is that Gretchen & Jeff aren't married, and Gretchen isn't working. If Jeff (lets assume we are talking as if he hasn't died) passed and didn't leave Gretchen as the beneficiary, then she'd be SOL. How would she pay the mortgage on that house they have? How would she make any payments on anything? Where would she live? Vicki was coming at it from a more business mindset, I mean she is in the insurance business, I bet she has seen this often.

Lynn comes at it from, experiencing it with her husband. But her husband LIVED, Gretchen's didn't. Plus Lynn was married at the time her husband got cancer, she doesn't understand Gretchen's position.

It's called being realistic, not being a golddigger.


i'm over Gretchen, her dumb "sex" comments have irked me. First she said that her & Jeff have sex while he is in the hospital....then at the dinner party she made a comment about how she hasn't had sex in 8 months. Come on Gretch, which is it? Get it together.

True, Jeana and Vicki were being realistic and it is important for Gretchen to keep those things in mind. I just thought they were being pushy, it seemed like Gretchen was uncomfortable with the subject and they just kept talking about it. It did cross my mind that Vicky knows her stuff because she's in the insurance field.. I just think maybe Gretchen should sit down with a financial planner or something if this really concerns her.

It would be really unfortunate for Gretchen to be left out of Jeff's will, but how do we know that would make her broke? Maybe she comes from money or something like that and just hasn't shared that information. She's had a career in real estate so she wouldn't be entering the job market totally clueless.

I'm confused about the sex comments though too! I can't imagine they'd be hooking up in the hospital though, maybe she was joking about that?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

It would be really unfortunate for Gretchen to be left out of Jeff's will, but how do we know that would make her broke? Maybe she comes from money or something like that and just hasn't shared that information. She's had a career in real estate so she wouldn't be entering the job market totally clueless.

I'm confused about the sex comments though too! I can't imagine they'd be hooking up in the hospital though, maybe she was joking about that?

I thought they were being more "pushy" about Gretchen getting a job, then finding how how much Jeff was leaving her. I know Gretchen wouldn't go into the job market clueless, but in this economic time it is a lot harder to get a job....especially a real estate job (and it is even tougher in California).

I don't know why she would make those sex comments though. "When you want it, you'll figure out a way to do it" doesn't really sound like a joke, and it if is, then its a baaaaaad joke. She just seems really desperate to me.

[ajuhdg]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ehhh i disagree. Although Lynn had a point, so did Jeana and Vicki. I didn't take their comments as being a golddigger. Lynn and Vicki were coming from two different aspects, and although Vicki could see Lynn's side, Lynn either couldn't or refused to see Vicki's.

The fact is that Gretchen & Jeff aren't married, and Gretchen isn't working. If Jeff (lets assume we are talking as if he hasn't died) passed and didn't leave Gretchen as the beneficiary, then she'd be SOL. How would she pay the mortgage on that house they have? How would she make any payments on anything? Where would she live? Vicki was coming at it from a more business mindset, I mean she is in the insurance business, I bet she has seen this often.

Lynn comes at it from, experiencing it with her husband. But her husband LIVED, Gretchen's didn't. Plus Lynn was married at the time her husband got cancer, she doesn't understand Gretchen's position.

It's called being realistic, not being a golddigger.


i'm over Gretchen, her dumb "sex" comments have irked me. First she said that her & Jeff have sex while he is in the hospital....then at the dinner party she made a comment about how she hasn't had sex in 8 months. Come on Gretch, which is it? Get it together.

It is DEFINITELY being realistic. I'm in the same financial advising field as Vicki, and you don't get to be Court of the Table in MDRT for selling a couple life insurance policies here and there. Once Jeff is gone (which we know he is) it's too late. He's been married so many times before, I would hope that he's got things taken care of. Vicki's right that Gretchen could be drawing a 'salary' from taking care of Jeff. Her comment about 'needing to take money from her savings to pay bills' probably sent up an alarm with Vicki. Meaning, Gretchen didn't have access to his accounts. I thought Jeana's comment about Lynne talking like 'a woman who doesn't work' was spot-on. While she went through the same thing with her husband, it was a long time ago, with much less history, no children, etc.

If they are THAT close (gretchen and Jeff) it should not be an uncomfortable conversation. My husband is perfectly healthy, but I know I'm his beneficiary, etc. If something happens to him, I'm not going to be wondering what to do next. If anything, Gretchen is fortunate to have had time to 'plan'. Many people (speaking from experience here) are NOT that lucky. You'd be surprised, especially with old policies, who is lsted as a beneficiary...and that goes for insurance and investments. Naming a beneficiary allows procedes to pass outside of a will/probate. A smart thing to do.

I'm not giving anyone advice, as I'm not licensed in every state, but a beneficiary arrangement is common sense.

[shultzz]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I just watched this week's episode last night. Raquel are her friends are so lame. It was obvious they were trying to be so cool by claiming how drunk they were, but if anything, they were acting slightly tipsy, not hammered. It's like Raquel wants people to think you're this awesome 18 year old party girl, but no one cares about her drinking habits! It's just pathetic that she tries to show that off.

I was absolutely disgusted by Gretchen and Ryan. First off, Ryan looks like a creep who would put something in a girl's drink to bring her home. He lurks around those doorways and leers at girls- freak! He is NOT attractive and I've thought from last season that he was gay. Or just waaaaay too into his mom. He has grinded on her in past episodes and he finally admitted this week that he thought she was hot. And his "give me a hug first" line to Gretchen was so cliche- what girl hasn't heard something similiar from a guy trying to hook up with her?

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I prefer to use the line, "fuck me if I'm wrong, but is your name Zelda?"

[joliebelle]

[WVU alpha phi]

Originally Posted by joliebelle

That was classic, my boyfriend and I were cracking up. How embarrassing for her!

[BetteDavisEyes]

I could keep watching that scene over and over and over again. Between that one and her getting hit with the football, I can't help but laugh like crazy. Also, it looks like her little trophy broke but I'm not sure. That's too bad.