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Old 01-08-2009, 11:59 AM
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$.5M china
$9M vacation homes in hawaii.

change we can expect?
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:05 PM
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$.5M china
$9M vacation homes in hawaii.

change we can expect?
That's funny how you are trying to sit that one in Obama's lap...don't reach any further...you may fall over.

Read the Headline again...

THE BUSHES (not the Obamas) ARE PURCHASING NEW CHINA

Furthermore: The Obamas did not BUY nor OWN the 9 mil house they stayed in during the holidays

They RENTED it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28337617/

Let's try to keep our stories stright before we lie on ourselves
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:29 PM
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Let's try to keep our stories stright before we lie on ourselves
And while we're at it, let's keep straight that none of the purchases mentioned in this thread were made with taxpayer funds.

I'm with KSigKid -- I'm not seeing the big deal.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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And while we're at it, let's keep straight that none of the purchases mentioned in this thread were made with taxpayer funds.

I'm with KSigKid -- I'm not seeing the big deal.
Said that at the beginning...
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:56 PM
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Said that at the beginning...
Did you say the "not a big deal" part, too?

Because you probably should have.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:58 PM
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Did you say the "not a big deal" part, too?

Because you probably should have.
Eeehhh...but I didn't...that's what I have you for....whatever one misses...someone picks up.


Still, the timing is just...wrong.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:02 PM
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Said that at the beginning...
I know. I was adding to your response to DGTess.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:45 PM
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The timing is terribly wrong. I don't care whose funds were used for the purchase. I also don't care about the fact that the china will be used to serve dignitaries and that it is a part of the historical legacy of the mansion.

I also don't buy the notion that the china belongs to all of us. Last I checked American citizens can barely get near the White House, let alone even VISIT it. How does the china belong to us?
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:59 PM
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I also don't buy the notion that the china belongs to all of us. Last I checked American citizens can barely get near the White House, let alone even VISIT it. How does the china belong to us?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/tours/
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:36 PM
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In fact I did NOT say that Americans CANNOT visit the White House. I said they BARELY can visit.S o he did not show that my statement was not accurate. He showed that he did not properly read and comprehend the sentence. There is a difference.
You said Americans "can barely get near the White House, let alone even VISIT it." The clear implication is that while we can "barely get near" the White House, it is next-to-impossible to visit it. I'll take your word as to what you meant, but what you said doesn't quite match up with what you meant. So apparently, it's not that KSig RC can't read and comprehend what you wrote; it's that you had some trouble writing in such a way as to convey what you actually meant.

And to be honest, I think you're way overstating the hoops that have to be jumped through to visit the White House. Having jumped through those hoops not that long ago, I can assure you it's really not that hard at all. You pretty much just call your Representative far enough in advance, let him or her know when you want to come, provide some basic background information and that's about it. Took one phone call.

As for whether the china "belongs to us" or not, it belongs to us all collectively, just like any other public property does.

As for the Obamas moving in, they receive a budget of $100,000 in public funds for redecorating. (Not that much in the grand scheme of things.) Anything spent beyond that will come from a foundation like the White House Historical Association (the foundation that paid for the new china).

I'm just still not seeing the big deal -- and as KSigKid says, I'm not a Bush supporter. I'm counting the minutes until he moves out of the White House. I just never saw the point of Bush-bashing purely for the sake of Bush-bashing either.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:11 PM
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The timing is terribly wrong. I don't care whose funds were used for the purchase. I also don't care about the fact that the china will be used to serve dignitaries and that it is a part of the historical legacy of the mansion.

I also don't buy the notion that the china belongs to all of us. Last I checked American citizens can barely get near the White House, let alone even VISIT it. How does the china belong to us?

I agree with DeepImpact. Eventhough the China is not paid for by the taxpayers it was still a senseless purchase. It makes no sense to purchase China for 1/2 a mil. when in two weeks the new first lady will be making another china purchase (because unless I'm misinformed each first lady gets to purchase china for the white house). I know it wont be in the first days that Mrs. Obama will make her china purchase, but it could be relatively soon and it will appear that our US leaders are just blowing money for no reason. In an economic crisis the Bush family is buying china? Really? Thats a great way to spark our economy. Is this china American made? (just wondering)

To hell with the historical legacy crap. Buying china is not the best way to enhance the historical legacy of the white house. I would have been more understanding if the Bushes purchased art of some kind. That is something that I would consider a legacy, but dinnerware? Nope. Its not like they dont already have china for dignitaries to eat from so what is the need for more? What dignitaries are they hosting over the next 14 days that they'll need china for?


DeepImpact2,
Maybe I misunderstood your post, but I thought that you meant that regular Americans couldn't visit the White House with the term visit meaning:
Go to the white house and have a meal using the expensive china.

In that sense Americans can barely visit the white house.
I do not consider something mine that I cannot use. If I jump through the necessary hoops I can go to the white house and view the china. That, in my opinion, does not make the china mine. That makes it someone elses china that I am going to see. Something cannot be considered "all of ours" if it can be used and only some of us can use it.
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