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12-31-2008, 11:56 PM
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Seeing eye dogs aren't pets.  That's another I don't quite get. Why some animals are allowed in restaurants and others are not. I've been to restaurants (granted, these places of business were not in the U.S.) where dogs were allowed at the tables of their owners. They'd even eat table scraps. As long as they aren't mangy, I really don't care. It's the kitchen that really concerns me.
I gotcha on the breastmilk thing, but it seems an extreme concern to me.
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BESIDES "seeing eye dogs"...
Technically "pets" are NOT allowed in restaurants that serve humans. If you EAT in a place where you sit down, using the restaurant's plates, cups and "eatingware", they MUST ensure a reasonable level of sanitation upon receipt of your meal. So, if it is some beach burger joint, and you use their area to eat, they are liable for anything that happens from the time you sit down, get served and eat... And hot dog stands have to have some level of sanitation.
Now if you choose to eat your food on your beach blanket rather than their area, the liability is reduced.
PETS confound this issue in restaurants--this is different from "seeing eye dogs--or assistance animals" they are trained from an early age to behave a particular way in ALL situations... But random pets, not appropriate where human food is prepared or consumed...
It's like that dog that stole the dog bone at the Walmart recently--not that's funny...
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01-01-2009, 12:14 AM
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So if they weren't in the US, then what exactly is it you don't get?
But in a restaurant you should be concerned about more than the kitchen.
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Have you thought about what incredibly nasty and vile germs are on the bottoms of the shoes that you're tracking through restaurants? That dust gets kicked up and into your food. There are bacteria in the dirt in some places that is, IIRC, 50X stronger than any antibiotic we've ever discovered. Let a little of that dust get on your food and see what happens. I never let restaurant workers sweep near me while I'm eating. Now, THAT's disgusting!
I'm eh on animals in restaurants and don't really care as long as they're clean and flea free. They're no dirtier than we are and I'm more likely to catch an illness from a person than an animal anyway. But, like I said, I wouldn't want anything getting in and contaminating food in the kitchen...people included.
If you just don't like dogs, that's on you. But, the idea that groomed dogs would make a restaurant any dirtier than we already make it is laughable...thus why seeing-eye dogs are a-ok.
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It's like that dog that stole the dog bone at the Walmart recently--not that's funny...
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I loved that the store manager "confronted" the dog and said something like "DROP IT!" LOLOLOL!
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01-01-2009, 12:40 AM
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Have you thought about what incredibly nasty and vile germs are on the bottoms of the shoes that you're tracking through restaurants? That dust gets kicked up and into your food. There are bacteria in the dirt in some places that is, IIRC, 50X stronger than any antibiotic we've ever discovered. Let a little of that dust get on your food and see what happens. I never let restaurant workers sweep near me while I'm eating. Now, THAT's disgusting!
I'm eh on animals in restaurants and don't really care as long as they're clean and flea free. They're no dirtier than we are and I'm more likely to catch an illness from a person than an animal anyway. But, like I said, I wouldn't want anything getting in and contaminating food in the kitchen...people included.
If you just don't like dogs, that's on you. But, the idea that groomed dogs would make a restaurant any dirtier than we already make it is laughable...thus why seeing-eye dogs are a-ok.
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 Are you talking to me specifically when you say "you" or are you just saying a general "you?"
As for the part about germs on shoes, I think we all know that germs are carried in on shoes. And I also don't let people sweep near me in restaurants.
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01-01-2009, 01:19 AM
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 Are you talking to me specifically when you say "you" or are you just saying a general "you?"
As for the part about germs on shoes, I think we all know that germs are carried in on shoes. And I also don't let people sweep near me in restaurants.
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General. Obviously, I don't know if you personally like or don't like dogs.
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01-01-2009, 01:28 AM
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I loved that the store manager "confronted" the dog and said something like "DROP IT!" LOLOLOL!
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I heard they were going to arrest the dog??? So what would they do if it was a bear? It would be like "where do you put an 800 lbs bear?",
"A-N-Y-W-H-E-R-E H-E W-A-N-T-S-!"
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01-01-2009, 09:16 AM
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I'm eh on animals in restaurants and don't really care as long as they're clean and flea free.
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Who would moniter that in a restaurant?
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01-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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Who would moniter that in a restaurant?
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Good point.
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01-01-2009, 11:41 AM
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Who would moniter that in a restaurant?
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At the places I went, the restaurant staff had the right to refuse pets just as they had the right to refuse patrons.
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01-01-2009, 02:05 PM
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At the places I went, the restaurant staff had the right to refuse pets just as they had the right to refuse patrons.
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I should have been more specific. How would a restaurant monitor checking dogs for fleas?
I would have a problem ( I do own a dog) with somebody's "pet" being inside a restaurant. Like it was said before, seeing eye dogs, ok, but folks bringing their pets to dinner, hell no. I would think restaurants would be concerned that one the patron's pets might attack someone. People may have dogs that are friendly to them, but not everyone else.
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01-01-2009, 04:42 PM
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I should have been more specific. How would a restaurant monitor checking dogs for fleas?
I would have a problem ( I do own a dog) with somebody's "pet" being inside a restaurant. Like it was said before, seeing eye dogs, ok, but folks bringing their pets to dinner, hell no. I would think restaurants would be concerned that one the patron's pets might attack someone. People may have dogs that are friendly to them, but not everyone else.
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While seeing-eye dogs are highly trained, they are still dogs and they still get fleas and do have bad reactions other dogs, particularly when their harnesses are removed and down-time is signaled. That's something owners often do to give the animal a break while they eat. I have no problem with any kind of clean, tame and socialized dog being in a restaurant. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that one would be ok with seeing-eye dogs but not other dogs.
I think it would be interesting to have dog and non-dog sections like smoking and non-smoking in areas that still have them. A lot of places with outdoor cafes allow dogs in the outdoor area. I used to take my puppy to places like that. People sat outside even if they didn't have a dog with them.
This hijack is waaaaaaaay off topic. We could talk about dogs in restaurants that nurse their pups under the table.
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