Mother of Palin's boyfriend arrest

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

Hey - I can't help it you didn't understand a post! Just trying to help.

The abusive thing doesn't surprise me, either. I'm telling you, sometimes you go so far down the trashy train that drug abuse, teen pregnancy, shotgun weddings, and abusive relationships are almost unavoidable.

But, of course, I don't live in Wasilla. I can only compare what it sounds like to what I've seen in my travels.

Well thank you for setting a guy straight!


That reminds me...did she have the baby this weekend or what?

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

That reminds me...did she have the baby this weekend or what?

Nothing that I can find in the news.

[deepimpact2]

I've been looking as well. I will be sufficiently humbled if there is an actual live birth.

Otherwise I will continue to believe that Trig is Bristol's baby. The circumstances surrounding his birth just don't make much sense. Either Palin is irresponsible as all get out, or she was covering for Bristol.

For example...Palin has stated that she knew early in the pregnancy that the baby had Down Syndrome, meaning that along with the fact that she was 40+, it was a high risk pregnancy. She was in Texas to give a speech when her water broke. She went ahead to give the speech anyway. She then proceeded to leave the place where she gave the speech and get on a plane while IN LABOR. I must stop at this point and add that airlines don't want/allow you to fly once you reach a certain stage of pregnancy and I KNOW they would not allow a woman in labor to fly. This of course involved deception on her part because she got on the plane and did not tell anyone she was in labor. Going back to the story, she had to fly eight hours to reach Alaska where she then had to drive another 45 minutes to reach the hospital where she gave birth. Now I know she prides herself on being heroic, but is that really even plausible or realistic or RESPONSIBLE behavior for someone with a high risk pregnancy? Or is it the behavior of someone who probably isn't pregnant, but is rushing home where her pregnant daughter is about to give birth?

[WCsweet<3]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

For example...Palin has stated that she knew early in the pregnancy that the baby had Down Syndrome, meaning that along with the fact that she was 40+, it was a high risk pregnancy. She was in Texas to give a speech when her water broke. She went ahead to give the speech anyway. She then proceeded to leave the place where she gave the speech and get on a plane while IN LABOR. I must stop at this point and add that airlines don't want/allow you to fly once you reach a certain stage of pregnancy and I KNOW they would not allow a woman in labor to fly. This of course involved deception on her part because she got on the plane and did not tell anyone she was in labor. Going back to the story, she had to fly eight hours to reach Alaska where she then had to drive another 45 minutes to reach the hospital where she gave birth. Now I know she prides herself on being heroic, but is that really even plausible or realistic or RESPONSIBLE behavior for someone with a high risk pregnancy? Or is it the behavior of someone who probably isn't pregnant, but is rushing home where her pregnant daughter is about to give birth?

I hadn't heard the story around that baby's birth. I also had written off all the rumors of it being the daughter's baby figuring they were just trying to make Palin look bad. Labor pains tend to be painful right? Even if it is the fifth kid. I mean I couldn't have been pleasant. I would assume there would be some sign of distress if she was in labor.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by WCsweet<3

I hadn't heard the story around that baby's birth. I also had written off all the rumors of it being the daughter's baby figuring they were just trying to make Palin look bad. Labor pains tend to be painful right? Even if it is the fifth kid. I mean I couldn't have been pleasant. I would assume there would be some sign of distress if she was in labor.

I think most of the time labor pains ARE painful, but I have heard of women who have had relatively easy labor. Especially when they are athletic like Palin and have had more than one child.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I've been looking as well. I will be sufficiently humbled if there is an actual live birth.

Otherwise I will continue to believe that Trig is Bristol's baby. The circumstances surrounding his birth just don't make much sense. Either Palin is irresponsible as all get out, or she was covering for Bristol.

For example...Palin has stated that she knew early in the pregnancy that the baby had Down Syndrome, meaning that along with the fact that she was 40+, it was a high risk pregnancy. She was in Texas to give a speech when her water broke. She went ahead to give the speech anyway. She then proceeded to leave the place where she gave the speech and get on a plane while IN LABOR. I must stop at this point and add that airlines don't want/allow you to fly once you reach a certain stage of pregnancy and I KNOW they would not allow a woman in labor to fly. This of course involved deception on her part because she got on the plane and did not tell anyone she was in labor. Going back to the story, she had to fly eight hours to reach Alaska where she then had to drive another 45 minutes to reach the hospital where she gave birth. Now I know she prides herself on being heroic, but is that really even plausible or realistic or RESPONSIBLE behavior for someone with a high risk pregnancy? Or is it the behavior of someone who probably isn't pregnant, but is rushing home where her pregnant daughter is about to give birth?

So . . . even if we assume all of this is true (NOTE: there's no real evidence it went down just like this), you really think the most likely explanation is thus that . . . Trig is her daughter's baby? That's the Occam's Razor solution?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

So . . . even if we assume all of this is true (NOTE: there's no real evidence it went down just like this), you really think the most likely explanation is thus that . . . Trig is her daughter's baby? That's the Occam's Razor solution?

Actually Palin herself has given this account. It ws a part of her effort to show everyone how tough she is and her level of dedication. Going through all of that and then going back to work a few days after the baby was born.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Actually Palin herself has given this account. It ws a part of her effort to show everyone how tough she is and her level of dedication. Going through all of that and then going back to work a few days after the baby was born.

And your own statement gives a perfectly valid reason why I think it's somewhat exaggerated, and likely not fit as evidence of conspiracy - she's not credible, in a sense, because there is motivation to appear a certain way.

That's about the farthest thing from proof (of any sort) that her child is anything but her own. She's provided birth records. Seriously.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

And your own statement gives a perfectly valid reason why I think it's somewhat exaggerated, and likely not fit as evidence of conspiracy - she's not credible, in a sense, because there is motivation to appear a certain way.

That's about the farthest thing from proof (of any sort) that her child is anything but her own. She's provided birth records. Seriously.

No my statement is not a valid reason for you to think it is exaggerated.

I notice people always make this argument when something utterly ridiculous is revealed about someone and they can't accept it. When I say there is motivation to appear a certain way...there is. She has made it clear that she wants to let people know how dedicated she is and she offered up the fact that she went back to work three days after giving birth as proof of that. And while I applaud all working mothers, especially if they are in such high profile positions, I know that I'm not alone in questioning her judgment in going back to work so soon after giving birth to a baby with DS and choosing to fly on a plane for 8 hours while in labor. I'm sorry if you can't wrap your mind around it, but your decision to remain in denial does not make this any less true.
On another note, from what I understand she never actually provided a birth record for Trig. In fact I think there was also an issue because she did not provide any medical records indicating that she had actually given birth around the time that Trig was actually born.

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

I never thought a wedding was going to happen either. I am also surprised that she didn't suddenly "lose" the baby. I say that because I always wondered if she was really pregnant since they mainly revealed her pregnancy to head off the rumors that Trig was actually Bristol's baby and not Palin's.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only person who had this thought!

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam

About Palin, and her daughter, and her possible future mother-in-law - at the end of the day I'm not really surprised about the arrest and whatnot because, well, this may come off as harsh but the whole family strikes me as a little trashy. But - I'm from a trashy little town, too, and you see this type of crap all the time.

I guess it's just as well that Palin's not going to be in the White House. But - these things happen. Especially in small towns.

Palin has always screamed white trash in a suit to me. It's like the epitome of the saying "You can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl."