Cake request for 3-year-old Hitler namesake denied

[LΩVE]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I say make the damn cake for the kid. It's the least that they can do for him considering all the bullying and torture he'll endure in upcoming years.

That's what I was thinking.

[DrPhil]

They have also lost the newborn.

Originally Posted by article

A New Jersey couple who lost custody of their first three kids after giving them Nazi-inspired names has been denied the right to take home their fourth child, a newborn boy they named Hons.

Heath and Deborah Campbell's other children - Adolf Hitler Campbell, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell - are in foster care. On Monday, the Campbells went to family court in their hometown of Flemington, N.J,. in a bid to regain custody of Hons, who they say was taken from them by state child welfare officials hours after Deborah gave birth on Thursday, reported myfoxphilly.com.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...f-newborn-hons

[FSUZeta]

do you suppose they intended to name their child hAnszlynn HIMMLER? and intended to name the new baby hAns?

[knight_shadow]

Wait -- they lost custody because of the names? Or am I missing something?

[Kevin]

Apparently the father was accused of domestic abuse and the mother of failing to protect the children. Having represented parents and kids in quite a few juvenile removal proceedings, the parents are going to lie to everyone involved, in this case, probably to the news media, case workers, their own attorneys, etc.

On the other side of that coin is the fact that the caseworkers are often underqualified, overloaded, and also tend to have a touch-and-go relationship with telling the truth in court.

All I can really speak to is Oklahoma, but if this was happening here in OKC, the parents would have had two options, stipulate to the charges and complete a "plan" or go to a jury trial for the termination of their parental rights. If I'm their lawyer, I'm not taking a case where parents name their children Adolf Hitler to a jury. I'm working a plan.

Those plans usually involve the parents taking lots of classes, drug tests, being involved in therapy and other programs. In my experience, most parents who work plans fail to do so because they either relapse or can't deal with authority.

Either way, we're only hearing the parents' side of things, which is probably a partial or complete fabrication. I'm sure their state's juvenile code requires that juvenile caseworkers, attorneys, etc., keep the case confidential.

[amIblue?]

Forced sterilization is too good for these two.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Forced sterilization is too good for these two.

This would be a godsend. Even if we just start paying people say $5K or so to have their tubes tied, I'd love to see it.

As mentioned, I do work as a volunteer attorney representing children in deprived proceedings. One of the places I do that is on the show-cause docket where the state has to appear and show cause why they took the kids into custody. I'll do anywhere between 3-4 to 12-15 of those cases on an individual docket.

I can't tell you how many times I've read a file and my kid or kids are mom's 6th, 7th, etc. I once had a kid who was something like the 12th kid taken into custody from the same mother (some kind of drug addict).

[Psi U MC Vito]

There has to be more then the names. For DYFS to take away custody, you done screwed up bad.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

There has to be more then the names. For DYFS to take away custody, you done screwed up bad.

Yea, that was my thought, but this (from the article)...

A New Jersey couple who lost custody of their first three kids after giving them Nazi-inspired names has been denied the right to take home their fourth child, a newborn boy they named Hons.

...threw me off.

[DrPhil]

This is yet another instance of how people can figuratively do whatever the hell they want to do but they can't always literally do whatever the hell they want to do. Sometimes doing whatever the hell you want to do puts the spotlight on you and other things are discovered.

[angels&angles]

They can't even spell their Nazi namesake right? I do assume it's supposed to be "Himmler" not "Hinler." And what's with the Lynn obsession? Ugh, people.

[angels&angles]

Also, a slightly dirty ditty for those with the taste for it:

Hitler, he only had one ball
Goering had two but they were small
Himmler had something sim'lar
And Dr. Goebels had no balls at all.

And now you will always remember the names of some of the major Nazi players. You never know, it might be useful one day, like if you want to offend your neighbors and ensure that your kids will have a terrible childhood.