Day Without A Gay

[SWTXBelle]

Overuse kills irony. Could we drop the "breeders" references? It's now tiresome to the point of being counterproductive. Thanx.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Overuse kills irony. Could we drop the frequent "breeders" references? It's now tiresome to the point of being conunterproductive. Thanx.

First of all, I generally keep you on ignore because you add nothing to the entertainment value of my GreekChat experience.

Moreover, I think you're a shrill, self-righteous wench.

Never would I monitor specific words to make YOU or any other BREEDER feel better.

If my words make you tired, take a nap. Otherwise ignore them.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

First of all, I generally keep you on ignore because you add nothing to the entertainment value of my GreekChat experience.

Moreover, I think you're a shrill, self-righteous wench.

Never would I monitor specific words to make YOU or any other BREEDER feel better.

If my words make you tired, take a nap. Otherwise ignore them.

Oh no - I don't keep you entertained? Well, feel free to entertain yourself by looking up the words "tired" and "tiresome" so you can appreciate the difference. If your goal is to offend the straight community, then I'm sorry I misinterpreted your purpose. I had thought you were making a point about pejorative language - I didn't realize that you in fact have a giant chip on your shoulder. My mistake.

Don't flatter yourself. Your words don't make me feel better, or worse. I simply hate for language to be used in an attempt to belittle any group. If anyone is self-righteous here, I'm pretty sure it's you.

Please, please, do put me on ignore.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

First of all, I generally keep you on ignore because you add nothing to the entertainment value of my GreekChat experience.

Moreover, I think you're a shrill, self-righteous wench.

Never would I monitor specific words to make YOU or any other BREEDER feel better.

If my words make you tired, take a nap. Otherwise ignore them.

To be honest, the term "breeder" bothers me as well. Not all straight people have children. Not all straight people even want children.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

To be honest, the term "breeder" bothers me as well. Not all straight people have children. Not all straight people even want children.

Here here!

In childfree lingo, the term "breeder" is used as the opposite of "parent," as in "someone who just pops out sprog because it's what you do and then doesn't actually bother to raise or discipline them, lets them run wild in the grocery store, etc."

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

To be honest, the term "breeder" bothers me as well. Not all straight people have children. Not all straight people even want children.

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

Here here!

In childfree lingo, the term "breeder" is used as the opposite of "parent," as in "someone who just pops out sprog because it's what you do and then doesn't actually bother to raise or discipline them, lets them run wild in the grocery store, etc."

Awwww... straight privilege. How adorable.

I'm happy that no matter whether you want or can have them or not, you have the right to be a family and have all the rights and privileges which come with it.

Now you can either continue the tangent with your offense at the term breeder or you can get to the root of the inequality with me.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Awwww... straight privilege. How adorable.

I'm happy that no matter whether you want or can have them or not, you have the right to be a family and have all the rights and privileges which come with it.

Now you can either continue the tangent with your offense at the term breeder or you can get to the root of the inequality with me.

I completely hear what you're saying and agree with you on one level, buddy. This is about heterosexual privilege.

On another level, it's about tolerance on both sides even if your perceived intolerance generally can't translate to discrimination on the part of homosexuals against heterosexuals.

Since you are also a member of another minority group, you can appreciate how using perceived slurs has little utility unless you are just breeding () hostility and intolerance on either side.

It's like black people celebrating a momentous occasion, such as the election of the first black president, and wanting a voice for the cause but doing so under the guise of "putting those h_nkies in their place" or "pissing off those salty cr_ckas."

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It's like black people celebrating a momentous occasion, such as the election of the first black president, and wanting a voice for the cause but doing so under the guise of "putting those h_nkies in their place" or "pissing off those salty cr_ckas."

That's not so bad.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Awwww... straight privilege. How adorable.

I'm happy that no matter whether you want or can have them or not, you have the right to be a family and have all the rights and privileges which come with it.

Now you can either continue the tangent with your offense at the term breeder or you can get to the root of the inequality with me.

Hey, I'm not offended by the term breeder. I figure that when gay people use it to refer to straight people it's usually tongue-in-cheek. At least, I assumed that it was in this case. I was just clarifying what I think of when someone uses the word.

And Sen, I don't claim any straight privilege over the right to be a parent, a good or bad one. Once we stop making it so freaking hard for homosexuals to have children (by whatever means) I'm sure there will be plenty of awful gay parents out there, also.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Overuse kills irony. Could we drop the "breeders" references? It's now tiresome to the point of being conunterproductive. Thanx.

Or counterreproductive.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Or counterreproductive.

LOL - you are right. I'm sorry . . . I did run it throught the spell-check - I will correct it.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

LOL - you are right. I'm sorry . . . I did run it throught the spell-check - I will correct it.

Wasn't that a joke? counter reproductive?

[Munchkin03]

As an avowed heterosexual who fully intends on having children, I have no problem with the term "breeder," and always thought it was tongue-in-cheek. It's not a slur, for goodness sake!

I also saw it as an opposite to the use of the word "straight" to describe heterosexuals, because that implies there's something crooked about homosexuals.

That's just me. Maybe I'm not that deep.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

As an avowed heterosexual who fully intends on having children, I have no problem with the term "breeder," and always thought it was tongue-in-cheek. It's not a slur, for goodness sake!

I also saw it as an opposite to the use of the word "straight" to describe heterosexuals implies that there's something crooked about homosexuals.

That's just me. Maybe I'm not that deep.

How 'bout that? *gold star*

Conversely, think about the claiming of the word "queer" by a marginalized community in rejection of (or in addition to) the word "gay."

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

How 'bout that? *gold star*

So it's like a tit for tat kind of thing.

And, for the record, some heteros not being offended by "breeder" isn't enough to sink the Titanic if we're simply talking about what may be embedded in our daily language. "Breeder" is only as tongue-in-cheek as the context and the people who receive it. I think it's funny coming from Senusret but in a different context and from someone else I might be like "whoa, bitch."

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Conversely, think about the claiming of the word "queer" by a marginalized community in rejection of (or in addition to) the word "gay."

Yes, marginalized groups have that right. I am also familiar with "queer studies" but I have had homosexual colleagues express that they don't want hetero colleagues using "queer" in most contexts. To which I respond with "OKAY, I will respect." As a member of the majority, I can't tell the minority how to self-identify but I can comment on what is embedded in the language if it is directed at the majority.