Survivor: Gabon

ASTalumna06 · #1 12-01-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Maybe not so clearly. Bob voted for Susie -- the only reason to do that is so that the Sadly Mistaken One (who, after all, still seems to think it impossible that Sugar could have found the immunity idol during all her time at Exile Island) might believe he's still with her.

Yea, but Corinne knows that Bob made the fake idol and passed it on to Randy. I think that Bob voted for Susie to make it look to RANDY like it wasn't him who tricked him. Remember, you have to keep the jury happy, too. And whether Sugar has the idol or not, Corinne should be worried and watching her back, knowing that even if Sugar was voted out, they're still coming up short in the numbers game.

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I vaguely recall someone telling her to start wearing it at all times now and to never let it leave her sight. May be wrong though?

I know that Ace told her way back that she shouldn't keep it in her bag and that she should hold on to it. But I don't know if they've mentioned where she's been keeping it since then.

MysticCat · #2 12-01-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Yea, but Corinne knows that Bob made the fake idol and passed it on to Randy.

She knows Bob passed it to Randy and she may (should!) suspect that Bob knew it was fake, but does she know that he knew it was fake? I didn't see anything showing that she knew that. I expect Bob to tell her he thought it was real. It doesn't do Bob any good just to fool Randy while letting Corinne know that he knew the idol was fake -- she'd make sure the rest of the jury found out.

And SydneyK, I could be wrong, but yes, I think that the idol can be stolen. And yes, he's James Whitmore's grandson. Apparently, he had a sizeable trust fund from granddaddy that came to him when he was 18. He says it was an education trust fund. It's all gone now.

ASTalumna06 · #3 12-01-2008, 05:01 PM

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She knows Bob passed it to Randy and she may (should!) suspect that Bob knew it was fake, but does she know that he knew it was fake? I didn't see anything showing that she knew that. I expect Bob to tell her he thought it was real. It doesn't do Bob any good just to fool Randy while letting Corinne know that he knew the idol was fake -- she'd make sure the rest of the jury found out.

I'm pretty sure everyone was high-fiving Bob when they got back to camp after the last tribal council. If Corinne didn't see what was going on, then she's definitely dumb.

If Bob makes it to the final three, I imagine he’s going to have some explaining to do. But I still think that no matter what, he has just as good of a chance at winning as anyone else there. I mean… he’s Bob! If he fooled me, and everyone I was in an alliance with, and he somehow made it to the top three when the numbers were stacked against him for so long, I’d vote for him to win. Other than doing what’s necessary for him to win, he hasn’t pissed anyone off. Excluding Matty, I don’t think there’s really anyone else you can say that about.

MysticCat · #4 12-01-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I'm pretty sure everyone was high-fiving Bob when they got back to camp after the last tribal council. If Corinne didn't see what was going on, then she's definitely dumb.

I'm confused. When did they show the return to camp? Didn't the episode end with the usual arial view of everyone carrying their torches away from tribal council? The return to camp should start this week's episode. Did I completely miss something?

Even so, Bob can tell Corinne that everybody else assumes he tricked Randy and that he's letting them think that to keep himself a little safer, but that he really didn't know. Since Corinne thinks she and Bob are the only ones out there with any smarts at all, it might not be that hard a sell.

ASTalumna06 · #5 12-01-2008, 05:42 PM

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I'm confused. When did they show the return to camp? Didn't the episode end with the usual arial view of everyone carrying their torches away from tribal council? The return to camp should start this week's episode. Did I completely miss something?

Even so, Bob can tell Corinne that everybody else assumes he tricked Randy and that he's letting them think that to keep himself a little safer, but that he really didn't know. Since Corinne thinks she and Bob are the only ones out there with any smarts at all, it might not be that hard a sell.

Maybe I'm thinking about the episode before? When everyone was excited about Sugar voting their way, leaving Randy, Corinne and Bob with fewer people in their alliance than the other one.

Either way, you're right about Corinne... she thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread, and that everyone else is too dumb to play the game.... and I guarantee it's going to come back and bite her.

Meanwhile, Bob has to know that if he makes it to the final three, someone on the jury is going to know what he did. It's all going to come out. Who knows, one of the final three players could expose him. Anything to win, right?

AlphaFrog · #6 12-02-2008, 06:57 AM

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And SydneyK, I could be wrong, but yes, I think that the idol can be stolen.

According to wiki, it can't be stolen. Otherwise, I'm sure Crystal would have kept it when she found it in Sugar's bag.

I haven't seen the preview where they talk about a marriage proposal, but since this is the week the family members probably come, I'm betting Matty proposes to Jamie.

SydneyK · #7 12-02-2008, 09:53 AM

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...since this is the week the family members probably come, I'm betting Matty proposes to Jamie.

Good call, AlphaFrog. I bet you're right.

(And, good to see you here!)

ASTalumna06 · #8 12-02-2008, 10:02 AM

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I haven't seen the preview where they talk about a marriage proposal, but since this is the week the family members probably come, I'm betting Matty proposes to Jamie.

Definitely forgot about the family members coming. I haven't really watched this show since the first season. I bet that's it.

MysticCat · #9 12-02-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

According to wiki, it can't be stolen. Otherwise, I'm sure Crystal would have kept it when she found it in Sugar's bag.

Thanks. I've never understood why CBS doesn't post the rules on their website.

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I haven't seen the preview where they talk about a marriage proposal, but since this is the week the family members probably come, I'm betting Matty proposes to Jamie.

Good call.

AGDee · #10 12-02-2008, 01:38 PM

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Thanks. I've never understood why CBS doesn't post the rules on their website.

Good call.

Some people on alt.tv.suvivor have suggested that if they post the rules on the CBS site then they'd have to follow them all the time, not just when they felt like enforcing it. Also, people would spend time scouring the rules to find loopholes to do what they wanted to do in the game. I'm with you though, I want to see the rules posted.

ASTalumna06 · #11 12-02-2008, 02:37 PM

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Some people on alt.tv.suvivor have suggested that if they post the rules on the CBS site then they'd have to follow them all the time, not just when they felt like enforcing it. Also, people would spend time scouring the rules to find loopholes to do what they wanted to do in the game. I'm with you though, I want to see the rules posted.

Well... I think something like...

"You can't steal another person's idol, they have to give it to you," would be an ok rule to post.

And things like... "If someone uses an idol during tribal council, and they receive the most votes, there is no re-vote, and the person with the second highest number of votes will leave the game."

And... "If someone wins immunity during a challenge, they can choose to keep immunity for themself, or they can give it to someone else at tribal council."

etc. From what I understand, those rules are pretty cut and dry. It'd definitely be nice to have something to reference when unsure about one of these, or other rules of the game that people tend to not know or forget.

AlphaFrog · #12 12-05-2008, 06:35 AM

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Definitely forgot about the family members coming. I haven't really watched this show since the first season. I bet that's it.

Who called it?

I was a bit disappointed with the family member's appearance. Usually they actually get to compete in the challenge with their family...which is usually pretty cool. I also knew Jeff was lying when he said that the family wasn't there. I totally expected it when Bob's wife said "I've got something to show you". Why do you think they didn't do Exile? I know partially because the family members were there, and they gave everyone a chance to see them, but does anyone think it's partially because everyone left knows that Sugar has the idol, and they'd take the comfort and not bother? And speaking of Sugar + HII, I'm very curious why there's been no talk of blindsiding her. I feel she's a pretty big jury threat, since she's been instrumental in some big moves in the game. Although I doubt the rest of the tribe feels that way.