She just won't go away peacefully into the night

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

yes...it's called the Warmup Round for 2012

Oh please, I know even staunch republicans who wouldn't vote for her. She might like to think she will be a viable candidate, but there are others who would be far better choices.

This is my complaint with American politics....we need a viable 3rd party. I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

Who's with me?

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

...maybe the Libertarians? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal?

Or do you mean middle-of-the-road on social issues?

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by LightBulb

...maybe the Libertarians? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal?

Or do you mean middle-of-the-road on social issues?

Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here )
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell.

[AOIIalum]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell.

I'm in based on your initial platform. What's next?

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here )
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language

Personal responsibility is a bit abstract. That's not really something a good number of people would oppose.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here )
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell.

i like your thinking...this looks like my list of pros/cons...and i am @ the "pounds of maui wowee" comment!

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

I'm in based on your initial platform. What's next?

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

i like your thinking...this looks like my list of pros/cons...and i am @ the "pounds of maui wowee" comment!

So I guess I should come up with a snazzy name for my future political party?
I don't know what's next just yet. I'll have a glass of wine and get back to you both.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here )
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell.

I'M IN!!!

But... People can vote in the US in a language other than English right now, or is that something being proposed? Bad business....

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

I'M IN!!!

But... People can vote in the US in a language other than English right now, or is that something being proposed? Bad business....

In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish.

Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by LightBulb

Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.

While the US has no official language, something I understand as an educator and an intelligent citizen, it doesn't mean that the VAST majority of the population shouldn't speak and read English. If I moved to pretty much any other country where English wasn't the main language and became a citizen, there would be language requirements to do so. If I wanted to vote in those countries they wouldn't be providing me with a ballot in my own language. I'm a foreign language educator, and while I have no problem with people speaking and reading other languages English should be the national language. What is wrong with this? French is the official language of France, German is the official language of Germany, English and French are the official languages of Canada. What's the problem?

I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that people should be able to read the ballot in English if they are to vote in the USA.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

Oh please, I know even staunch republicans who wouldn't vote for her. She might like to think she will be a viable candidate, but there are others who would be far better choices.

This is my complaint with American politics....we need a viable 3rd party. I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

Who's with me?

That's it right there....people are talking like she has a chance...heck I don't know if she can even keep her governorship past her first term...she has LOT of work to do if she ever decides to run at the TOP of the ticket...time is on her side tho...she is only in her 40s.....she should get into a Hillary Boot Camp Course...