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Old 11-09-2008, 04:24 AM
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I agree here and some of it is his own doing, but we also have to look at the whole picture, not just Bush. It's not just the president who makes all of the decisions. People keep making bad accusations of his decision to go to Iraq, but his staff had a large part in the decision to go there.
The buck have to stopped somewhere. He is the President and he has to take full responsibility for his actions. It's great to say that his staff did this and that, ultimately, his staff did not make the decision to go into Iraq. It was him and congress. Those who voted for him and Bush bear the main responsibility.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:33 AM
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The buck have to stopped somewhere. He is the President and he has to take full responsibility for his actions. It's great to say that his staff did this and that, ultimately, his staff did not make the decision to go into Iraq. It was him and congress. Those who voted for him and Bush bear the main responsibility.
I agree, but it was his staff that made the mistake with the WMD drama. They said there were WMDs and there weren't any.

I don't know if you saw the movie "W", but something like this was in the movie. It was a good movie. The same guy who directed Nixon did this one too. Oliver Stone I think.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:01 PM
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I agree, but it was his staff that made the mistake with the WMD drama. They said there were WMDs and there weren't any.

I don't know if you saw the movie "W", but something like this was in the movie. It was a good movie. The same guy who directed Nixon did this one too. Oliver Stone I think.
I left that movie feeling bad for Bush. Honestly, while I don't agree with Bush, and don't like the direction the country has gone in during his presidency, you can't say that I've ever been disrespectful of him. Unless you count going to a Bush rally in 2004 (just to see the sitting President in person, I'm such a geek!) and leaving halfway through (because the people sitting around me were annoying the crap outta me).

ETA: I do feel like Bush is pushed around by Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al, but that's because I dislike Cheney and Wolfowitz.
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