Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Fortunately, in my workplace, people have been happy and talking about how great it is. It's the MCCain people that are quiet and silent as a church mouse.

In fact, myself and 4 other co-workers spent 2 hours over lunch hunting for newspapers and taking them to Kinkos to get laminated on Nov. 5th. Maybe its because the majority of my workplace is under 35.

Even our VP was talking about how great Obama was (and she is under 40).

I was thinking about doing this as well. I have already said I'm going to collect newspapers and magazines as well.

[Honeykiss1974]

/\/\ I've done it with my local newspaper and the USA Today(that's all we could find). It turned out really nice....and at a cost of $6!

[deepimpact2]

I was kind of disapointed with the New York Times newspaper that came out after he was elected. It was kind of underwhelming.


By the way, did anyone watch Obama's news conference? I was shocked by the Nancy Reagan remark. I don't think that's going to go over well at all.

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

By the way, did anyone watch Obama's news conference? I was shocked by the Nancy Reagan remark. I don't think that's going to go over well at all.

Yeah the conservatives are going to rip him for that one. I think he'll have to find a balance of when to let his playfulness show, which played well during the campaign, and just to be all about business. Overall, I felt my confident about trying to move the country forward in his 30 minute press conference than I did in Bush's 8 years in office.

[deepimpact2]

Now Bily Graham has come out and stated that he will no longer mentor presidents. How convenient that this occurs when the first Black president is elected. I know that Billy Graham is old, but in the article it clearly stated that he would continue working with his ministry and that he is writing a book. Not only that, but Graham met with McCain, but when Obama wanted to meet with him he was "too ill." At any rate, Obama is probably better off without Billy Graham as his mentor.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Now Bily Graham has come out and stated that he will no longer mentor presidents. How convenient that this occurs when the first Black president is elected. I know that Billy Graham is old, but in the article it clearly stated that he would continue working with his ministry and that he is writing a book. Not only that, but Graham met with McCain, but when Obama wanted to meet with him he was "too ill." At any rate, Obama is probably better off without Billy Graham as his mentor.

Are you talking about this article? I tend to give him a bit of a pass given his age and health.

He was hospitalized last year for nearly two weeks after experiencing intestinal bleeding, and he has also had prostate cancer. Earlier this year, he had elective surgery to update a shunt that controls excess fluid on his brain. The shunt was first installed in 2000 and drains fluid from through a small tube, relieving excess pressure that can cause symptoms similar to Parkinson's disease.

"He could catch a cold and his life could come to an end," Franklin Graham said. "At his age, any little thing could be a serious event. We realize that."

However, he

would like to meet the president-elect and pray with him.

[DrPhil]

Good grief, people. Is this an example of the unnecessary suspicion and faulty logic that we will be dealing with for the next 4 or more years just because there is a black president? Let's get over ourselves.

I like Billy Graham and this is most likely because of his age and health rather than not wanting to mentor a black president. Billy Graham has been loved and respected by black people (and vice versa) for decades. In fact, there is still material on Billy Graham's take on racism and prejudice floating around if people want to read it.

[DrPhil]

The Ronald Reagan seance comment was stupid. I cringed. Obama called Nancy Reagan to apologize. I think the conservatives have had enough of nitpicking so aside from some remarks about it they will let it slide.

Obama's going to need to think more on his feet and not get too comfortable/cocky. He talks slow enough and does enough "uh...."s to be thinking about what he says. Leave the off-hand jokes in your head, Obama. Now we need more substance and less talking.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/07/obama.seance/

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Now Bily Graham has come out and stated that he will no longer mentor presidents. How convenient that this occurs when the first Black president is elected. I know that Billy Graham is old, but in the article it clearly stated that he would continue working with his ministry and that he is writing a book. Not only that, but Graham met with McCain, but when Obama wanted to meet with him he was "too ill." At any rate, Obama is probably better off without Billy Graham as his mentor.

I don't think its a snub - Billy Graham is 90 afterall (and needs a walker) so I would think its moreso due to health. Although this is hardly publicized, Billy Graham believed in a message of Christ for all people and worked with Martin Luther King Jr. and others in the civil rights movement in softening the hearts of those that felt otherwise.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Good grief, people.

I believe you mean "Good grief, person."

[deepimpact2]

Billy Graham was also known for anti-Semitic remarks, as well as remarks against Black people. Not to mention the fact that he was a member of a country club that had a clear policy against allowing Blacks to join.

Sorry, but I don't give him any license. It's not paranoia or suspicion that fosters my thinking on this point. If you are in such failing health, how do you still have time to run a ministry and write a book? Besides, according to his family Billy Graham has been in failing health for YEARS, sometimes giving the impression that he was on the brink of death. Yet he still had enough strength to mentor Bush.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I believe you mean "Good grief, person."

I mean "people."

Her sentiment is shared by others.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I mean "people."

Her sentiment is shared by others.

Ah, so you weren't referring to any of the other posts. I see.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Ah, so you weren't referring to any of the other posts. I see.

It was obvious that you didn't share her sentiment.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It was obvious that you didn't share her sentiment.

Along with HoneyKiss. I was surprised at the degree of emphasis, that's all.