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11-05-2008, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by epchick
Just an FYI...but this doesn't always happen. The electors of each state can decide to ignore the popular vote (of their state) and vote for whoever they want.
It happened in the 2000 presidential election. Al Gore won the popular vote, Bush won the electoral vote.
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Uh.... I have to correct you here. In 2000, Al Gore did indeed win the overall popular vote. But he just didn't win the right combination of states to capture the electoral vote. None of the electors changed their vote or voted for someone other than the person they were obligated to. You might argue that Florida SHOULD have sent Democrat electors to the electoral college, but they sent Republican ones for better or worse.
Bear in mind that technically we're not even voting for president but for electors who have pledged to vote for a specific person for president.
Every state has a winner-take-all system when it comes to electors, except for Maine and Alaska.
Electors are obligated to vote for the candidate that wins the majority in their state. An elector who does not vote for the candidate they are pledged to vote is termed a "faithless elector" and is relatively rare. We're talking maybe 1 elector per election and often none. Not anything that's thrown an election to a different candidate. Ever. In the entire history of the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector
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11-05-2008, 06:23 AM
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Wow. The was a pretty sweet win.  Now let's get to the good stuff and see what this man can really do!
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11-05-2008, 07:43 AM
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And in Michigan, both Medical Marijuana and Embryonic Stem Cell research proposals PASSED! Woooooooot! The ads against the stem cell research were brutal, showing half cow/half humans in one ad, embryo production companies in one and comparing to the Tuskegee Experiment in one! I'm so glad the majority of Michiganders didn't fall for that. There "2 goes 2 far" signs all over the place and hardly any "Yes on 2" signs. I truly didn't think it would pass. The Pro-Lifers were totally against it. But, it passed!
Yay for South Dakota!
Boo for California and Arkansas. I was ashamed in 2004 that Michigan voted that marriage was only between a man and woman. I've debated that one ad nauseum here...
No, this does not mean the end of the Republican Party any more than George Bush and a solid Republican Congress/Senate meant the end of the Democratic Party. But, it is OUR turn to celebrate! We get a shot at fixing things now, we can only hope that we're successful.
GOBAMA!
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11-05-2008, 08:07 AM
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11-05-2008, 09:05 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk.
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11-05-2008, 09:22 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
I seriously can't stand her.
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11-05-2008, 10:18 AM
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
i forgot i get to do that today too!!! she is going to argue but she needs to shut the heck up and deal with it...he is her president too!!
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11-05-2008, 10:23 AM
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yes!!!!
i am sick as a dog right now, but i am waiting with baited breath to see that bitter biddy.
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Moe - Hilarious!
It's dorky, but I can't wait to watch The View today and watch Elizabeth sulk. |
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11-05-2008, 10:31 AM
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i am sick as a dog right now, but i am waiting with baited breath to see that bitter biddy.
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the rest of the girls shouldnt even say anything....just sit quietly and smile at her...lol! i predict a lot of stuttering...
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11-05-2008, 08:53 PM
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where's Pelosi????
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11-05-2008, 09:48 PM
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Seriously though, I have visions of a puppy being housetrained in the White House "NO! Not on the rug in the Lincoln Room!" LOL
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LOL!
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ETA: Isn't it sad how many beautiful dogs are maltreated and unwanted?
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Sad, but true.
The ASPCA has been running an ad recently with Sarah McLachlan. She does a voice-over about the ASPCA and the animals they rescue (she appears briefly on camera, but most of it is a voice-over), and the background music is her song "Angel" ... and there is clip after clip of dogs and cats that have been rescued (some of them are injured). Right at the end, there's a cute kitty cat batting at the camera with one paw. It's a tear-jerker and it makes me wonder how ANYONE could mistreat or abandon a pet that depends on you for everything.
I think it's high time the White House had a First Cat again.
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11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
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Found these updates about the newpaper sell out on the New York Times web site. Cover all the papers. While I have yet to see what the regular press run is for any of the papers, the number of extras is just about amazing 75-100,000. The NYT printed 35% more on its regular first run!
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...0out%20&st=cse
http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45&aid=153617
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11-06-2008, 12:06 AM
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LOL!
Sad, but true.
The ASPCA has been running an ad recently with Sarah McLachlan. She does a voice-over about the ASPCA and the animals they rescue (she appears briefly on camera, but most of it is a voice-over), and the background music is her song "Angel" ... and there is clip after clip of dogs and cats that have been rescued (some of them are injured). Right at the end, there's a cute kitty cat batting at the camera with one paw. It's a tear-jerker and it makes me wonder how ANYONE could mistreat or abandon a pet that depends on you for everything.
I think it's high time the White House had a First Cat again.
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Sad ad, but the use of that song annoys me because it's about HEROIN ADDICTION!
Anyway, the ads that made me cry every time I saw them were the Pedigree adoption drive ads with the various dogs that had been abandoned.
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11-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin
Every state has a winner-take-all system when it comes to electors, except for Maine and Alaska.
Electors are obligated to vote for the candidate that wins the majority in their state. An elector who does not vote for the candidate they are pledged to vote is termed a "faithless elector" and is relatively rare. We're talking maybe 1 elector per election and often none. Not anything that's thrown an election to a different candidate. Ever. In the entire history of the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector |
I'm not saying that an elector changed their vote in the 2000 election, I was just refering to the girls' assertation. Soemthing about the popular vote decides the electoral votes. I was just pointing out an example where the popular vote doesn't mean that the candidate will get the electoral votes. I guess I should have put that all there, but I thought by just mentioning it, that it was understood.
Although it happens "very rarely," electors are not obligated to vote for the candidate that wins the majority. According to the NARA:
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It is possible that an elector could ignore the results of the popular vote, but that occurs very rarely.
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In the 2000 election, Cheney had to change his "home state" from Texas to Wyoming because of the electoral college. Something about electors can't vote for two people from the same state, so either Bush wouldn't have gotten Texas' electoral votes or Cheney wouldn't have gotten the votes.
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