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Old 10-03-2008, 11:02 AM
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I switched among all the news channels post debate and they all (including democrats) said that she did a pretty good job and that her likeability factor was higher than Biden's.

As an aside, I don't get all the vitriol towards her, it's almost like a psychosis. She isn't a boogie (wo)man who's hiding in the closet I don't feel hatred or fear about any of them. The people who truly wield the power are the legislators, and more frequently these days, the judiciary. The president, and certainly, the vice president can only wield any influence if they have a clear mandate from the people seen in a landslide vote. As much as people say Bush pushed us into war, the Congress voted to allow it and has allowed the budgetary appropriations to continue it. (mind you, I'm no Bush fan, I just find revisionist history interesting to watch unfold). Just like the people who are saying that it is the deregulation of the past 8 years that have brought us to this economic crisis, when it is very easy to find that factually the deregulation of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac began in 1999 (and the pressure for it began before that). All you need is google or nexis and the facts are right there in print.

It reminds me of the book 1984 - newspeak.

As for fact checking the vp debate - both fudged on the facts, both had flubs in terms of mis-speaking, but, we all view the performances based upon our predisposed biases.

off the soapbox.

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Old 10-04-2008, 04:02 AM
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The president, and certainly, the vice president can only wield any influence if they have a clear mandate from the people seen in a landslide vote.
Oh, how I wish that were true. I think Cheney especially has shown that it does NOT take a mandate to wield a great deal of influence.
I do agree that congress goes along with entirely too much, but they're too worried about getting screwed over if they vote against something- they're "soft on terrorism" they "don't support our troops" and all that nonsense. Yuck. Strap on a pair!
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