McCain suspends campaign to go back to DC to work on bailout

[DaemonSeid]

he wasnt particularly strong but Obama was more concise and stumbled less...

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

he wasnt particularly strong but Obama was more concise and stumbled less...

He was more concise and stumbled less than he usually does, but he spent most of the debate responding to McCain instead of making his own points. So from a pure debate standpoint, he lost on that note. He let McCain define what they talked about and what his positions were and then spent his time trying to clarify his positions.

Granted I wasn't particularly impressed with either and Obama was bounds ahead of where he was in the primary debates, but Obama's staff needs to work on getting him on the attack instead of just defending for the next debate.

And Obama did misquote/mischaracterize what Kissinger said and he'll end up regretting that, Kissinger himself will respond to it and when he talks people listen.

So I think overall it's a McCain win, but won't move the polls much because it wasn't the best debate for either of them.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

He was more concise and stumbled less than he usually does, but he spent most of the debate responding to McCain instead of making his own points. So from a pure debate standpoint, he lost on that note. He let McCain define what they talked about and what his positions were and then spent his time trying to clarify his positions.

Granted I wasn't particularly impressed with either and Obama was bounds ahead of where he was in the primary debates, but Obama's staff needs to work on getting him on the attack instead of just defending for the next debate.

And Obama did misquote/mischaracterize what Kissinger said and he'll end up regretting that, Kissinger himself will respond to it and when he talks people listen.

So I think overall it's a McCain win, but won't move the polls much because it wasn't the best debate for either of them.

not a clean win...McCain kept agreeing too much with Obama...and Obama ran him over talking about the economy points...MCcAin looked more like a warmonger staying too much on defense spending....you may have missed it when you had the game on(no snark so correct me if you caught that) ...McCain talked about that very early early on.....but over all he was too nice and too agreeing

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

not a clean win...McCain kept agreeing too much with Obama...and Obama ran him over talking about the economy points...MCcAin looked more like a warmonger staying too much on defense spending....you may have missed it when you had the game on(no snark so correct me if you caught that) ...McCain talked about that very early early on.....but over all he was too nice and too agreeing

They both agreed with each other a lot, McCain's camp already has a youtube ad up (I think there's a link on Politico) of Obama saying "I agree with Senator McCain, John's absolutely right, etc." I don't think there's anything wrong with them agreeing though. And I missed the very beginning, yeah.

But of the part I saw they need to get Obama on the offensive. He spent too much time trying to respond to McCain repeatedly saying "What Senator Obama doesn't understand" and trying to explain that he did understand instead of landing his own blows where as McCain gave short answers and then attacked again.

That's what Obama needs to work on before the next debate. McCain could have won this debate big, but wasn't entirely at his best either, so I would expect it to not have too much of an effect on the polls.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

They both agreed with each other a lot, McCain's camp already has a youtube ad up (I think there's a link on Politico) of Obama saying "I agree with Senator McCain, John's absolutely right, etc." I don't think there's anything wrong with them agreeing though. And I missed the very beginning, yeah.

But of the part I saw they need to get Obama on the offensive. He spent too much time trying to respond to McCain repeatedly saying "What Senator Obama doesn't understand" and trying to explain that he did understand instead of landing his own blows where as McCain gave short answers and then attacked again.

That's what Obama needs to work on before the next debate. McCain could have won this debate big, but wasn't entirely at his best either, so I would expect it to not have too much of an effect on the polls.

true and Obama was more stern but....again...they both tapdanced and waltzed...i wanted to see a bloody death match....LOL