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Old 09-09-2008, 10:10 PM
Senusret I Senusret I is offline
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Well, she may have initiated in 1985, but is she still a member? That may explain why there's no record of her, we're not claiming her as accomplished, and why everything says JMU class of 88, but no Alpha Gamma Delta PC '85 or 1985 initiate of the JMU chapter.

Just saying, if I was no longer a member I wouldn't be telling people I was if I couldn't back it up. If that makes me unsufferable and a sugar pops mean girl for wanting to be sure sisters who are members get credit, and those who aren't sisters stop claiming membership, so be it.

It is just suspect, and I guess I would find it less strange if it had been worded "I joined Alpha Gamma Delta at JMU, but I am no longer a member" which makes more sense than still purporting membership. Guess it is a mystery, just like Whitney on The Hills denying she is a sorority member when she has been seen in letters and photographed at parties in said letters.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:17 PM
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I hate your guts right now.
Hey, we always need a touch of comedy.

Oh and just so people don't think I am targeting Karen McCullah Lutz, I am still waiting for ktbug to confirm she's my sister. I am an equal opportunity squirrel when it comes to protecting Alpha Gamma Delta's good name.
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:37 AM
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Just an FYI... We have discussed Ms. Lutz years before in several forums. And I can remember sending an email to IHQ back in 2003, they said they would look into it. But with a closed chapter who knows what the records are like. For what it is worth here is an archived JMU article on Ms. Lutz. http://www.jmu.edu/montpelier/issues...ain/blonde.htm

As soon as I get a kid free evening I will go see the House Bunny. I love that type of tongue in cheek humor.

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Old 09-14-2008, 03:49 AM
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I think it is hilarious that you all are so concerned as to whether I'm an AGD or not... for the record, I pledged in Fall of 84. My chapter no longer exists, so i'm sure it's hard to find records about me, and like i said before, i did tell IHQ to F off every time they asked me for a donation or whatnot, since they destroyed my chapter. In fact, i told them to take me off their mailing list and never litter my mailbox with their solicitations again, as i recall -- so perhaps they erased me from their database. Why did i do this? Because when I go back to JMU for homecoming, or to lecture, it says "Alpha Phi" on my sorority house. And that pisses me off! Nothing against Alpha Phi, of course (in fact, my mom was an Alpha Phi), but that house should say Alpha Gamma Delta!
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:49 AM
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I was going to stay quiet, but now I don't think I should.

You can't just come to a place like this and proudly state more than once that you told IHQ to fuck off for closing your chapter and claim you're an Alpha Gamma Delta...while trying to promote your g-ddamn movie. I know several of your sisters (myself included) felt uncomfortable by some of the comments you've made. Is this the way you really want to promote your movie?

FWIW, I (as an individual) have been treated poorly by some members of International Council. I've voiced my opinion about it here and there, but out of respect to my sisters, I try my best to keep my drama off GC. Maybe you can try to do the same. At least do it for your sisters.

And for the record, having one's chapter closed does not mean difficulty in finding one's records. You got what you want...Alpha Gam's not bothering you anymore. Maybe you really shouldn't be parading around as one, then.

There are hundreds of Alpha Gams from closed chapters who thankfully don't hold grudges against IHQ for closing their chapters. Many of them hold service positions in the Fraternity because they want to give back and they truly believe Sisterhood is for life. It's not limited to 4 years in college and a house currently being occupied by another sorority.



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I think it is hilarious that you all are so concerned as to whether I'm an AGD or not... for the record, I pledged in Fall of 84. My chapter no longer exists, so i'm sure it's hard to find records about me, and like i said before, i did tell IHQ to F off every time they asked me for a donation or whatnot, since they destroyed my chapter. In fact, i told them to take me off their mailing list and never litter my mailbox with their solicitations again, as i recall -- so perhaps they erased me from their database. Why did i do this? Because when I go back to JMU for homecoming, or to lecture, it says "Alpha Phi" on my sorority house. And that pisses me off! Nothing against Alpha Phi, of course (in fact, my mom was an Alpha Phi), but that house should say Alpha Gamma Delta!
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:10 AM
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You got what you want...Alpha Gam's not bothering you anymore. Maybe you really shouldn't be parading around as one, then.
My thoughts exactly.

It's sad that there are people who only uses their affiliation when it benefits them and then turn around and trash talk the organization.

"Look at me! I'm a XYZ! Come watch my movie so it does well!"
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:24 PM
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Yet another reason I will not be seeing this movie.

My chapter was closed. It breaks my heart, but the fact is that I am a part of something much larger than my chapter. I continue to support my sorority because I truly believe in it, and who knows? Maybe some day my chapter will be able to return. But even if it doesn't, I know that I have made a difference in the lives of young women through my continued involvement with Gamma Phi.

And I still firmly believe that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Especially if you seem to be milking your association for professional gain . . .
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:27 PM
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This is going to be my last post here, because you all are filled with a bit too much vitriol for me, but hey, it's your board, snipe away -- i just showed up to clear up your misconceptions about the movie. (And for all of you who sent me sweet PMs, I don't mean to lump you in with the vitriolic crowd.)

Telling IHQ to take me off their mailing list is not "trash talking" it -- i just didn't want to hear from them any more since they shut us down. Everyone else in my chapter felt the same way. Should that prevent me from coming on a Greek Chat board and confirming that I was an Alpha Gam when that's questioned? No. Should it prevent me from posting in an AGD thread to let them know that one of their sisters wrote a movie? No. Especially since many chapters use that info for recruitment.

I loved my four years with my chapter and still keep in touch with many of my sisters. I think my love of that time is reflected in the fact that I've now written two movies that feature sororities. I also encourage every teenage girl I know to go Greek when she gets to college.

But I've gotta say, I will also be enouraging them to stay off this message board!
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:37 PM
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FLOUNCE.

And, as a special bonus, we get the "I'm getting private messages that support me" line, too!

Talking about how you wrote a nasty letter (or to borrow your lovely turn of phrase, telling them ". . . to f off " ) to your HQ is perhaps not talking "trash", but it certainly indicates a poor attitude, as do your other posts regarding your GLO.

Vitriolic? Why, butter would not melt in my mouth . . . my posts are hardly vitriolic.

Somehow I think Greekchat will survive, (cue Gloria Gaynor . . . ) even if the mighty Karen Lutz does not recommend us to the millions of teen aged girls who look to her for direction regarding their college careers. (AGDs - do your chapters use her as an example of an accomplished alumna? In her LAST post she indicated that was the case . . .but I've never seen her name mentioned in the chapter sites I've seen.)

I wonder . . . did she have sequined pantyhose when she went through rush?
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:57 PM
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This is going to be my last post here, because you all are filled with a bit too much vitriol for me, but hey, it's your board, snipe away -- i just showed up to clear up your misconceptions about the movie. (And for all of you who sent me sweet PMs, I don't mean to lump you in with the vitriolic crowd.)

Telling IHQ to take me off their mailing list is not "trash talking" it -- i just didn't want to hear from them any more since they shut us down. Everyone else in my chapter felt the same way. Should that prevent me from coming on a Greek Chat board and confirming that I was an Alpha Gam when that's questioned? No. Should it prevent me from posting in an AGD thread to let them know that one of their sisters wrote a movie? No. Especially since many chapters use that info for recruitment.

I loved my four years with my chapter and still keep in touch with many of my sisters. I think my love of that time is reflected in the fact that I've now written two movies that feature sororities. I also encourage every teenage girl I know to go Greek when she gets to college.

But I've gotta say, I will also be enouraging them to stay off this message board!
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:16 PM
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My oh my.

I'm an Alpha Gam!

I don't know - I just thought I'd put it on to see if there would be question about my membership...

/end bad joke.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:24 PM
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My oh my.

I'm an Alpha Gam!

I don't know - I just thought I'd put it on to see if there would be question about my membership...

/end bad joke.
Karen's membership was in question because she didn't appear in Sister Search. Given all her accomplishments, many were wondering how come she never appeared on the Accomplished Alpha Gams list, either. We later found out that she told IHQ to "F off".

Given that we've had someone else falsely claim that she is an Alpha Gam (and also a Phi Mu) in the last three weeks, I don't blame anyone for being extra suspicious.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:30 PM
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I was just kidding.

My membership has never been in question, crazyface!

And I'm looking at all that stuff about KTbug now - how did I miss all that???
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:44 PM
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I was just kidding.

My membership has never been in question, crazyface!

And I'm looking at all that stuff about KTbug now - how did I miss all that???
crazyface?

Please refer to our sister OTW appropriately, as "sugarpops mean girl" thankyouverymuch
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:49 PM
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Missed the joke though, so I can't!
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