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09-09-2008, 06:45 PM
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But people who've been complaining about Obama's minister for months should not be shocked by the turnabout. And people complaining about people complaining about Obama's minister should shut their mouths and take the high road.
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Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.
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09-09-2008, 06:54 PM
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Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.
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Yeah, me neither.
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09-09-2008, 06:57 PM
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Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.
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It does work both ways though.
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09-09-2008, 07:03 PM
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It does work both ways though.
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... which is what he said.
If the context is truly that she reduced her "expenses" to less than 10% of what the previous Governor was using, and that the size of the state is the reason behind this being available to her (which appears to be the response), then it seems like an interesting but ultimately relatively tame tidbit of information that I would have difficulty determining how to use when deciding how to vote.
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09-09-2008, 09:35 PM
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... which is what he said.
If the context is truly that she reduced her "expenses" to less than 10% of what the previous Governor was using, and that the size of the state is the reason behind this being available to her (which appears to be the response), then it seems like an interesting but ultimately relatively tame tidbit of information that I would have difficulty determining how to use when deciding how to vote.
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Gee is that what he just said?
I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.
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09-10-2008, 12:21 AM
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Gee is that what he just said?
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Come on dude, you're better than this.
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I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.
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Yes, I think that link exposes some critical HYPOCRISY (which you and the KSigs have made big points about this evening) on the GOP side which might explain why many of us who are not pro-Palin have good reason to pshaw at all the spin and grin coming from the McCain camp.
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First, I love the Daily Show, and think the link is hilarious.
Second, I agree completely with both of you, and will take it a step further and state that I feel both sides have been irresponsible and hypocritical with regard to Sarah Palin.
This is a wonderful microcosm of why I haven't voted for either party in the last 3 election cycles (that, and I can't stand either Bush or Kerry), and instead have donated my time and money to a completely worthless third party.
I'm disappointed in the lack of context, which is what I pointed out in this thread and many others.
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09-10-2008, 10:00 AM
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Gee is that what he just said?
I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.
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I think there's been hypocrisy on both sides throughout the entire process. I have said, consistently, that I think both sides are responsible, and neither side can take any kind of high ground on this. The whole thing, on both ends, has gotten pretty ridiculous. This election is the closest I've ever come to voting third party.
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09-10-2008, 11:13 AM
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I think there's been hypocrisy on both sides throughout the entire process. I have said, consistently, that I think both sides are responsible, and neither side can take any kind of high ground on this. The whole thing, on both ends, has gotten pretty ridiculous. This election is the closest I've ever come to voting third party.
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Agreed. I do not listen to media talking heads that lean in either direction because they all spout 'facts' that haven't been checked, and speak rhetoric for the sake of ratings. The thing that is different for me in this election is that it is getting harder and harder to decipher the truth from the lies from both parties. I would love to make an educated decision here, but it is becoming a daunting task trying to verify what I hear. Official political ads can be blatantly false (Obama's sex ed in kindergarten) and emails from 'Alaskans' land in my mail box daily(most are obviously written by someone who has never been the state...but some are legit...check out snopes) Bill O'Reilly shouts statistics (70,000 Alaskan gov. employees...really?) and CNN pundits do the same(how many caribou did Palin shoot in one day?). When did it become OK to spout off supposed facts without double checking them? Maybe I was unaware during the last election, but it just seems like it is worse this election.
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09-09-2008, 07:05 PM
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It does work both ways though.
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Thanks for the reinforcement - that's exactly what I just said.
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09-09-2008, 07:08 PM
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I can't bring myself to watch the Daily Show link.
Has Palin herself made any statements expecting deference because she's a woman?
I know that we're been treating anything that anyone says about the candidates as a topic generally on GC, but I'm interested in knowing if Palin herself is guilty of that particular hypocrisy.
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09-09-2008, 07:13 PM
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Actually, it's other members of the GOP on the Daily Show link. It's quite funny b/c at one point, one member of the GOP is knocking a Democrat for holding the office at a tiny city with slightly over 100,000 people in it yet he then praises Palin for running the 2nd largest city in Alaska with slightly over 9,000 peole. It's not about her hypocrisy. It's about the hypocrisy of members of the GOP.
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09-09-2008, 09:32 PM
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Actually, it's other members of the GOP on the Daily Show link. It's quite funny b/c at one point, one member of the GOP is knocking a Democrat for holding the office at a tiny city with slightly over 100,000 people in it yet he then praises Palin for running the 2nd largest city in Alaska with slightly over 9,000 peole. It's not about her hypocrisy. It's about the hypocrisy of members of the GOP.
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The second largest city in Alaska has about 30,000, including the service members and their families at Ft. Wainwright. The Fairbanks North Star Borough has about 85,000.
Not sure where you're getting 9,000 as the second largest city  Anchorage is the largest city with over 300,000 in the municipality. Even Juneau has a bigger population than 9,000.
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09-09-2008, 09:47 PM
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The second largest city in Alaska has about 30,000, including the service members and their families at Ft. Wainwright. The Fairbanks North Star Borough has about 85,000.
Not sure where you're getting 9,000 as the second largest city  Anchorage is the largest city with over 300,000 in the municipality. Even Juneau has a bigger population than 9,000.
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I misquoted as I was just remembering off the top of my head. Watch the link to get the information then you can argue it.
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09-09-2008, 09:52 PM
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I can't bring myself to watch the Daily Show link.
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How very fair and balanced of you.
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Actually, it's other members of the GOP on the Daily Show link. It's quite funny b/c at one point, one member of the GOP is knocking a Democrat for holding the office at a tiny city with slightly over 100,000 people in it yet he then praises Palin for running the 2nd largest city in Alaska with slightly over 9,000 people. It's not about her hypocrisy. It's about the hypocrisy of members of the GOP.
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It was Karl Rove and the city in question (Richmond) has pop. of about 200K, not 100K.
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09-09-2008, 10:03 PM
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How very fair and balanced of you.
It was Karl Rove and the city in question (Richmond) has pop. of about 200K, not 100K.
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I have an obligation to watch the Daily Show?
The Daily Show is political entertainment. I don't find it entertaining so why would I watch it?
It's just kind of "Oooh, Republicans, burn" kind of humor. Perhaps if Obama wins, I will find new enjoyment, who knows?
(It's not like I'm Rush, Fox, O'Reilly-ing it up either.)
ETA: Only because you threw out Fair and Balanced, do you really imagine that a comparable clip couldn't be put together with Democrats, maybe on the topic of the value of experience or women in positions of authority?
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