Palin has been dipping in Alaska's Funds

[texas*princess]

yeah it's allllll the media's fault that they are reporting on stuff that they think we should know It's all the media's fault.. they are just pickin on her b/c she's a woman !!1!!

[Drolefille]

I've been reading an interesting article discussing how all of a sudden republicans are falling all over themselves to say how all this other stuff doesn't matter she's such a good speaker and her experience is enough, meanwhile democrats are harping on experience and prying to family life.

Gee, why does that seem familiar.

To be fair, there are legitimate political arguments to be made against Palin, just like there are against Obama. Family isn't one of them, the quality of her governance is. But people who've been complaining about Obama's minister for months should not be shocked by the turnabout. And people complaining about people complaining about Obama's minister should shut their mouths and take the high road.

(Besides Alaska's small population, big size, Arizona's not exactly jam packed full of people, Delaware's tiny and Illinois has Chica.. oh wait.) IMO Palin's lack of national experience of any sort, and a disconnected-ness with the rest of the country are negatives. Of course, others may see these as positives.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But people who've been complaining about Obama's minister for months should not be shocked by the turnabout. And people complaining about people complaining about Obama's minister should shut their mouths and take the high road.

Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.

Yeah, me neither.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Absolutely - I'm glad someone else said it on the board. If you were previously complaining about the media's treatment of Obama's personal life earlier in the campaign, then you really shouldn't be saying anything about Palin or McCain's personal lives. One thing I can't stand is hypocrisy.

It does work both ways though.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It does work both ways though.

... which is what he said.

If the context is truly that she reduced her "expenses" to less than 10% of what the previous Governor was using, and that the size of the state is the reason behind this being available to her (which appears to be the response), then it seems like an interesting but ultimately relatively tame tidbit of information that I would have difficulty determining how to use when deciding how to vote.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

... which is what he said.

If the context is truly that she reduced her "expenses" to less than 10% of what the previous Governor was using, and that the size of the state is the reason behind this being available to her (which appears to be the response), then it seems like an interesting but ultimately relatively tame tidbit of information that I would have difficulty determining how to use when deciding how to vote.

Gee is that what he just said?

I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Gee is that what he just said?

Come on dude, you're better than this.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yes, I think that link exposes some critical HYPOCRISY (which you and the KSigs have made big points about this evening) on the GOP side which might explain why many of us who are not pro-Palin have good reason to pshaw at all the spin and grin coming from the McCain camp.

First, I love the Daily Show, and think the link is hilarious.

Second, I agree completely with both of you, and will take it a step further and state that I feel both sides have been irresponsible and hypocritical with regard to Sarah Palin.

This is a wonderful microcosm of why I haven't voted for either party in the last 3 election cycles (that, and I can't stand either Bush or Kerry), and instead have donated my time and money to a completely worthless third party.

I'm disappointed in the lack of context, which is what I pointed out in this thread and many others.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Gee is that what he just said?

I'm emphasizing the point because it seems like now it makes complete and total sense to bash "omg liberal left" when "omg radical right" backs everything they've said about Obama/Biden. Bit of a stones in glass houses thing.

I think there's been hypocrisy on both sides throughout the entire process. I have said, consistently, that I think both sides are responsible, and neither side can take any kind of high ground on this. The whole thing, on both ends, has gotten pretty ridiculous. This election is the closest I've ever come to voting third party.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It does work both ways though.

Thanks for the reinforcement - that's exactly what I just said.

[UGAalum94]

I can't bring myself to watch the Daily Show link.

Has Palin herself made any statements expecting deference because she's a woman?

I know that we're been treating anything that anyone says about the candidates as a topic generally on GC, but I'm interested in knowing if Palin herself is guilty of that particular hypocrisy.

[BetteDavisEyes]

Actually, it's other members of the GOP on the Daily Show link. It's quite funny b/c at one point, one member of the GOP is knocking a Democrat for holding the office at a tiny city with slightly over 100,000 people in it yet he then praises Palin for running the 2nd largest city in Alaska with slightly over 9,000 peole. It's not about her hypocrisy. It's about the hypocrisy of members of the GOP.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

yeah it's allllll the media's fault that they are reporting on stuff that they think we should know It's all the media's fault.. they are just pickin on her b/c she's a woman !!1!!

No, it's the lack of context.

Did the story mention that she billed about 450K less than her predecessor? That might be kind of important.

[awkward1]

Originally Posted by Kevin

No, it's the lack of context.

Did the story mention that she billed about 450K less than her predecessor? That might be kind of important.

Ditto. Not to mention that her official home as Governor of Alaska is the governors mansion in Juneau, so when she works out of the Anchorage office but commutes to her other home in Wasilla she is actually saving the state a whole lot of money on hotel and food expenses. It takes about 45 minutes to travel from Anch. to Wasilla without traffic, during rush hour obviously much more time. I'd say the per diem is fairly hers and I think that if there was a problem then Alaskans would be the first to speak up about it. Again, someone making a mountain out of a molehill. Also, kudos to the poster who got their geography right; Wasilla is NOT the 2nd largest city in Alaska, not even close. Perhaps the MatSu borough is the second largest borough in the state but I cannot swear to that, I am only guessing at how this 'fact' was arrived at.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by awkward1

Ditto. Not to mention that her official home as Governor of Alaska is the governors mansion in Juneau, so when she works out of the Anchorage office but commutes to her other home in Wasilla she is actually saving the state a whole lot of money on hotel and food expenses. It takes about 45 minutes to travel from Anch. to Wasilla without traffic, during rush hour obviously much more time. I'd say the per diem is fairly hers and I think that if there was a problem then Alaskans would be the first to speak up about it. Again, someone making a mountain out of a molehill. Also, kudos to the poster who got their geography right; Wasilla is NOT the 2nd largest city in Alaska, not even close. Perhaps the MatSu borough is the second largest borough in the state but I cannot swear to that, I am only guessing at how this 'fact' was arrived at.

Here's where I got my facts on population. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/02000.html

MatSu is not the second largest borough even, Anchorage is first, then Fairbanks North Star. The boroughs have changed from the 2000 census (I'm pretty sure they added a lot more), but that doesn't change the fact that Wasilla is a small town compared to others. I will give them props for having a Target built this summer, they got one roughly the same time as Anchorage.

I'm not even remotely interested in voting for Sarah Palin either, even though we're alumnae of the same University. I guess I'm just annoyed by poor fact checking and reporting considering Alaska is the focus of my graduate studies. I'm an Anthropologist, I can't vote for someone who discards the fossil record in a state where my work has contributed to said record.