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08-19-2008, 10:56 PM
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For Phi Mu it says you should seek to affiliate at your transfer school if it has a Phi Mu chapter. But that is only the paper work for transfering or becoming an alumna.
I'm assuming that some chapters have bylaws and require votes, etc. I'm not sure if mine chapter does to be honest, I've never ever witnessed a bylaw on the subject. I do know that women have transfered to my school and not affiliated. Now that is what makes me mad. You should at least try unless your transferred due to awful circumstances (ex. sick parent/sibling, finances, etc.)
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08-20-2008, 01:54 AM
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I do know that women have transfered to my school and not affiliated. Now that is what makes me mad. You should at least try unless your transferred due to awful circumstances (ex. sick parent/sibling, finances, etc.)
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I don't agree with that. Certainly there are reasons that you stated why someone wouldn't seek affiliation. But maybe you just feel you don't mesh with the women in the chapter at your new school and don't want to bother. As ISUKappa pointed out, it's better not to affiliate and have a lifetime of membership than to affiliate and then resign your membership because you're unhappy.
In Pi Phi, we have an official transfer introduction form that the old chapter is supposed to send to the new chapter at the time of the member's transfer. That is to get the ball rolling in case the member wants to pursue affiliation. If she doesn't, that's fine, and like other groups mentioned, the Pi Phi chapter at the new school gets the opportunity to approve the affiliation (or disapprove it). The idea behind the transfer introduction form though is that there are 1-2 events per year (like Founders' Day, etc) that the new chapter might want to invite the transfer member to even if either party decides not to pursue affiliation - just as a courtesy.
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08-20-2008, 02:28 AM
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I don't mean mad like I would be offended. I just meant mad in the sense that it would occur to me "why wouldn't they?". I didn't mean it so literal. I'm not the kind to sit around and take offense and obviously if they have other issues going on (as I previously stated) then that's their business. Also note that I said that they should try- as in try to get to know the members before deciding. At my school we never had a single affiliation in the time I was there and as far as I know if I didn't run into them on coincidence I would have never known, just so you see a bit more of my perspective.
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08-20-2008, 10:22 AM
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When I was a collegiate, two women transferred from two separate schools and then affiliated with our chapter. However, this was the semester before I initiated, so I do not know the exact circumstances or procedures. Both were fantastic additions to our group. One even became my pledge sister’s big!
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08-20-2008, 10:31 AM
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I just meant mad in the sense that it would occur to me "why wouldn't they?".
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Well, for that matter, my sophomore year roommate flunked out of school and then came back 2 years later. She didn't formally affiliate because being active in the sorority was part of the reason she flunked out of school. Everyone understood that and respected it and welcomed her presence when she had time - i.e. cheering the chapter on at Greek Week and things like that.
A transfer member should never be asked to rush - she's an initiated member of an NPC sorority, she can't get a bid anywhere else.
Our bylaws state that a member who transfers shall be given "full consideration" to affiliate, and that she can request that the first chapter send a recommendation and her records to the new chapter.
So, are you "free to affiliate"? Yes, the sorority lets you - but the plain fact of the matter is that the girls in the chapter may be people that you have nothing in common with or vice versa, and it may be better for all concerned for affiliation not to take place. We had one of our sisters transfer to Slippery Rock (which was basically our twin chapter) and apparently there were sisters from my chapter upset that she got a new member number, etc - but I think it depends on the kind of relationship you maintain with the first chapter. I think they wouldn't have been as PO'ed if she didn't blow them off.
It really is a case by case basis.
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08-20-2008, 10:44 AM
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Well, for that matter, my sophomore year roommate flunked out of school and then came back 2 years later. She didn't formally affiliate because being active in the sorority was part of the reason she flunked out of school. Everyone understood that and respected it and welcomed her presence when she had time - i.e. cheering the chapter on at Greek Week and things like that...
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Interesting...I believe our policy in that case is that the returning member is not an affiliate candidate because she is ALREADY a member of that chapter. She would HAVE to return as an active member or resign entirely.
Now...let's say she left school before graduating...never married...and 20 years later returned to the same school to continue her students. Would she be required to rejoin her chapter? Strictly speaking, yes. Can you imagine a 40-year-old woman participating in rush? Probably not...interesting situation...and I'm sure it's happened somewhere sometime!
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08-20-2008, 10:59 AM
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Interesting...I believe our policy in that case is that the returning member is not an affiliate candidate because she is ALREADY a member of that chapter. She would HAVE to return as an active member or resign entirely.
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I guess rather than "affiliate" the term I should have used was "reactivate." When you leave school for any reason you're an alum, so she just stayed an alum. I doubt if national even knew she was back at school.
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08-20-2008, 11:09 AM
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Interesting...I believe our policy in that case is that the returning member is not an affiliate candidate because she is ALREADY a member of that chapter. She would HAVE to return as an active member or resign entirely.
Now...let's say she left school before graduating...never married...and 20 years later returned to the same school to continue her students. Would she be required to rejoin her chapter? Strictly speaking, yes. Can you imagine a 40-year-old woman participating in rush? Probably not...interesting situation...and I'm sure it's happened somewhere sometime!
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That's ADPi's policy too. If a member takes a semester/year of school off regardless of the reason, they are expected to return to active status if/when they re-enroll on the same campus. It's never been an issue because they all wanted to return anyways. I guess I never thought about how we'd handle it if someone didn't want to.
As you said though, I can't imagine chasing down a woman who re-enrolled 20 years later and forcing her to be an active. That visual is rather funny!
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