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08-19-2008, 09:59 PM
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For AOII, any member in good standing may join any other collegiate chapter. We have no specific rules that state that the affiliation must be approved by the new chapter. Some chapters may have rules stating such in their bylaws that I don't know about, but once a sister, you are eligible for membership anywhere.
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08-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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For AOII, any member in good standing may join any other collegiate chapter. We have no specific rules that state that the affiliation must be approved by the new chapter. Some chapters may have rules stating such in their bylaws that I don't know about, but once a sister, you are eligible for membership anywhere.
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This statement made me remember something I read here a few months ago.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Delta Gamma chapter at UF that doesn't do affiliation from members who have transferred from other schools. I can't remember the reason why, but I think it was something to do with maintaining the chapter's integrity?
Are there other chapters who have similar policies?
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08-19-2008, 10:16 PM
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Delta Gamma chapter at UF that doesn't do affiliation from members who have transferred from other schools. I can't remember the reason why, but I think it was something to do with maintaining the chapter's integrity?
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Yes, I remember reading that too. Perhaps baci can shed some light.
I am sure that "integrity of the chapter" had something to do with it. But, seems like there was also a post that said that tons and tons of girls in Florida were pledging DG at smaller non-competitive schools, each with the intention of transferring to UF. The number of transfers was just overwhelming the UF chapter, and it was also hurting the original chapters.
But then again, maybe I just dreamed that last part.
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08-19-2008, 10:56 PM
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For Phi Mu it says you should seek to affiliate at your transfer school if it has a Phi Mu chapter. But that is only the paper work for transfering or becoming an alumna.
I'm assuming that some chapters have bylaws and require votes, etc. I'm not sure if mine chapter does to be honest, I've never ever witnessed a bylaw on the subject. I do know that women have transfered to my school and not affiliated. Now that is what makes me mad. You should at least try unless your transferred due to awful circumstances (ex. sick parent/sibling, finances, etc.)
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08-20-2008, 01:54 AM
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I do know that women have transfered to my school and not affiliated. Now that is what makes me mad. You should at least try unless your transferred due to awful circumstances (ex. sick parent/sibling, finances, etc.)
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I don't agree with that. Certainly there are reasons that you stated why someone wouldn't seek affiliation. But maybe you just feel you don't mesh with the women in the chapter at your new school and don't want to bother. As ISUKappa pointed out, it's better not to affiliate and have a lifetime of membership than to affiliate and then resign your membership because you're unhappy.
In Pi Phi, we have an official transfer introduction form that the old chapter is supposed to send to the new chapter at the time of the member's transfer. That is to get the ball rolling in case the member wants to pursue affiliation. If she doesn't, that's fine, and like other groups mentioned, the Pi Phi chapter at the new school gets the opportunity to approve the affiliation (or disapprove it). The idea behind the transfer introduction form though is that there are 1-2 events per year (like Founders' Day, etc) that the new chapter might want to invite the transfer member to even if either party decides not to pursue affiliation - just as a courtesy.
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08-20-2008, 02:28 AM
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I don't mean mad like I would be offended. I just meant mad in the sense that it would occur to me "why wouldn't they?". I didn't mean it so literal. I'm not the kind to sit around and take offense and obviously if they have other issues going on (as I previously stated) then that's their business. Also note that I said that they should try- as in try to get to know the members before deciding. At my school we never had a single affiliation in the time I was there and as far as I know if I didn't run into them on coincidence I would have never known, just so you see a bit more of my perspective.
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08-20-2008, 10:22 AM
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When I was a collegiate, two women transferred from two separate schools and then affiliated with our chapter. However, this was the semester before I initiated, so I do not know the exact circumstances or procedures. Both were fantastic additions to our group. One even became my pledge sister’s big!
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08-20-2008, 10:31 AM
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I just meant mad in the sense that it would occur to me "why wouldn't they?".
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Well, for that matter, my sophomore year roommate flunked out of school and then came back 2 years later. She didn't formally affiliate because being active in the sorority was part of the reason she flunked out of school. Everyone understood that and respected it and welcomed her presence when she had time - i.e. cheering the chapter on at Greek Week and things like that.
A transfer member should never be asked to rush - she's an initiated member of an NPC sorority, she can't get a bid anywhere else.
Our bylaws state that a member who transfers shall be given "full consideration" to affiliate, and that she can request that the first chapter send a recommendation and her records to the new chapter.
So, are you "free to affiliate"? Yes, the sorority lets you - but the plain fact of the matter is that the girls in the chapter may be people that you have nothing in common with or vice versa, and it may be better for all concerned for affiliation not to take place. We had one of our sisters transfer to Slippery Rock (which was basically our twin chapter) and apparently there were sisters from my chapter upset that she got a new member number, etc - but I think it depends on the kind of relationship you maintain with the first chapter. I think they wouldn't have been as PO'ed if she didn't blow them off.
It really is a case by case basis.
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08-19-2008, 11:52 PM
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This statement made me remember something I read here a few months ago.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Delta Gamma chapter at UF that doesn't do affiliation from members who have transferred from other schools. I can't remember the reason why, but I think it was something to do with maintaining the chapter's integrity?
Are there other chapters who have similar policies?
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Yes, I remember reading that too. Perhaps baci can shed some light.
I am sure that "integrity of the chapter" had something to do with it. But, seems like there was also a post that said that tons and tons of girls in Florida were pledging DG at smaller non-competitive schools, each with the intention of transferring to UF. The number of transfers was just overwhelming the UF chapter, and it was also hurting the original chapters.
But then again, maybe I just dreamed that last part.
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Our chapters may establish a policy of not affiliating transfer members. It's just as Blondie93 stated - some chapters simply can't affiliate all the transfers on their campus, so they choose to affiliate none. All chapters are encouraged to welcome and be friendly with transfer DGs.
This is not just a DG policy. During my senior year, Small State College on one end of the state added a Greek system with 3 NPC sororities. A particular chapter across the street from us at Big State U. was inundated with members pledging at Small State College and transferring in order to affiliate with the chapter at Big State U. After a year, they had to establish a no-affiliation policy.
Deepher4Life, a member who transfers to another school may choose whether or not to affiliate with a chapter. Often a student who transfers picks up a heavier load, and is glad not to have chapter meetings and required events added to increased studies. My own chapter was lucky enough to affiliate a couple of members. We occasionally heard of another DG on campus who didn't approach us to affiliate - we didn't take offense, it was their choice. Nobody really thinks about disloyalty to a chapter. Loyalty to the Fraternity is the main thing.
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08-19-2008, 11:58 PM
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During my senior year, Small State College on one end of the state added a Greek system with 3 NPC sororities. A particular chapter across the street from us at Big State U. was inundated with members pledging at Small State College and transferring in order to affiliate with the chapter at Big State U. After a year, they had to establish a no-affiliation policy.
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What happens if the chapter at Big State U is at total - would they still be able to have people affiliate (if the Small State College people were even allowed to), or would those people have to wait until a spot opened up at Big State U? I haven't ever dealt with this and I wonder if it's an NPC guideline or a local Panhellenic guideline.
As for the original question, I believe AXiD is similar to many others in that the chapter has discretion whether to let someone from another school's chapter affiliate.
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08-20-2008, 12:12 AM
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What happens if the chapter at Big State U is at total - would they still be able to have people affiliate (if the Small State College people were even allowed to), or would those people have to wait until a spot opened up at Big State U? I haven't ever dealt with this and I wonder if it's an NPC guideline or a local Panhellenic guideline.
As for the original question, I believe AXiD is similar to many others in that the chapter has discretion whether to let someone from another school's chapter affiliate.
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I believe you're right - if the chapter is at total, they can't affiliate. But it's been a l-o-n-g  time since I encountered that particular policy, so offhand I don't remember the exact guidelines.
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08-20-2008, 12:45 AM
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NPC allows women that have transfered to affiliate even if the chapter is at or above total. Of course that woman must comply with any guidelines from her national organization (in good standing) or any guidelines (affirmative vote) that the local chapter has put in place.
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08-19-2008, 11:26 PM
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This statement made me remember something I read here a few months ago.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was the Delta Gamma chapter at UF that doesn't do affiliation from members who have transferred from other schools. I can't remember the reason why, but I think it was something to do with maintaining the chapter's integrity?
Are there other chapters who have similar policies?
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I'm pretty positive that DG at FSU is the same way.
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