Alabama Recruitment Prediction (Fall 2008)

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by NOLA25

Does anybody know about how many will be selected for Alpha Phi?

I'm guessing that they would want the colony to be about the same size as the average chapter size at Bama. This is how alot of sororities determine how many they will take on for a colony. For example, if the average chapter at Bama has 180 girls, then that's about how many they would like to take for their colony.

Also, colonies generally like to take on a mix of class standings. They are going to want some freshmen, but the colony isn't going to be ALL freshmen. There are going to be some upperclassmen as well.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Fawn Liebowitz

Not sure how much this means, but the Alpha Phi rep my daughter spoke with said they weren't going for any particular number; they were going to take the ones they wanted, whether it was 2 or 200.

LOL - they'd be insane if they only took 2.

I know it's a rhetorical point, but still... it makes me giggle.

[rolltider17]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

As far as rushing again as a sophomore, I always tell PNMs that at a school like Bama, your BEST chance at getting a bid is as a FRESHMAN. Your chances generally don't improve if you try again next year.

I don't know anything about COB opportunities, as I believe all of the sororities are at or close to total. A few groups may have openings, but the Greek Life Office there would be your best source of info on COB opportunities.

Then of course in the upcoming weeks, Alpha Phi will be having it's colony recruitment. Yes, they are new to Bama, but they are an established Panhellenic sorority, and have many chapters all over the country. It is worth checking out as it would be an amazing thing for your daughter to be able to say that she is one of the founding members of the Bama chapter (if she were selected to be part of the group).

Alpha Phi will definitely be a great option, and I have been so pleasantly surprised by the response they've gotten! Some of the Greek stores are already stuff Alpha Phi gear and I think they'll get a great class.

It's not completely impossible to get a bid as a sophomore - I just got a bid to Alpha Chi and my roommate is pledging Chi O. Another friend of ours dropped during rush last year and just got a bid to Alpha Gam. It's really about meeting lots of girls and getting involved on campus!

[Bamamom13]

rolltider17, are you on your pledge retreat? I thought I saw the A Chi Os leaving yesterday on buses. Also, the Phi Mu girls were leaving too.

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by rolltider17

Alpha Phi will definitely be a great option, and I have been so pleasantly surprised by the response they've gotten! Some of the Greek stores are already stuff Alpha Phi gear and I think they'll get a great class.

It's not completely impossible to get a bid as a sophomore - I just got a bid to Alpha Chi and my roommate is pledging Chi O. Another friend of ours dropped during rush last year and just got a bid to Alpha Gam. It's really about meeting lots of girls and getting involved on campus!

This it true. One of my daughter's suitemates was engaged during her freshman year and did not go through rush. The engagement was called off. So she ended up making lots of friends through her suitemates contacts and signing up for Freshman Forum. She pledged (I forget what) last fall as a sophomore.

Suggest that your daughter interview for Freshman Forum ... that should be gearing up soon. Also, coax her to keep her grades up and be initiated into Phi Eta Sigma, which is the Freshman Honor Society. If she DOES wait until next fall to rush again, exemplary campus activities could be her fresh ticket to her favorite Greek house.

I just heard that Gamma Phi will DEFINITELY be recruiting up to total this year.

For the moms whose daughters did not receive bids as well as PNMs who did not receive bids, it might be a good idea to check out not only Alpha Phi, but Gamma Phi Beta as well -- two great Syracuse Triad groups!

For more information about 'Bama's Gamma Phi Beta chapter, please PM kk_bama. In case her inbox is full, PM me and I'll shoot her email address along.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by OTW

I just heard that Gamma Phi will DEFINITELY be recruiting.

For the moms whose daughters did not receive bids as well as PNMs who did not receive bids, it might be a good idea to check out not only Alpha Phi, but Gamma Phi Beta as well -- two great Syracuse Triad groups!

For more information about 'Bama's Gamma Phi Beta chapter, please PM kk_bama. In case her inbox is full, PM me and I'll shoot her email address along.

Thanks, OTW - Gamma Phi is a wonderful group (not that I'm a bit biased!) and I'm so excited to have Alpha Phi coming on to the campus - I hope some pnms who perhaps had their heart set on other groups will give both Gamma Phi and Alpha Phi a closer look.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel

I don't know why that statement rubs me the wrong way but it does.....

It's the truth.

Mountain Brook, among other towns/schools, has always been a very good town to be from at Alabama.

Likewise at Arkansas, people from the town of Stuttgart are in high demand and you can generally judge the quality of the fraternity by the amount of kids from Stuttgart it pulls.

I was impressed I saw at least three Arkansas girls. All from Little Rock, must have gone to Mount or Episcopal.

[chioalum]

My friends daughter is now a Kappa Kappa Gamma at Bama. She is so excited.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel

I don't know why that statement rubs me the wrong way but it does.....

Because you and I know that all being from a specific town doesn't tell you anything about the person that really counts . . .and that great women can come from anywhere!

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Because you and I know that all being from a specific town doesn't tell you anything about the person that really counts . . .and that great women can come from anywhere!

Absolutely true.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by howdy

Can you tell me who the top sororites are at Alabama .....Which ones do the guys like to party with.

Go away Troll!

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by howdy

who would you say are the top sororities and Alabama? Which ones do the guys want to have parties with?

'Cause you rewording it TOTALLY makes me want to answer . . .

[AnchorAlumna]

OK, NOW I have put all the NEW info posted by UA (Thank you, Fawn Leibowitz, for posting the link) into another Excel spreadsheet, sortable by first name, last name, hometown, state, or sorority. PM me if you'd like it. BTW, I can't send an attachment to you via PM, so you'll need to send me an e-mail address.
ETA: Strike that. The "new info" was actually the 2007 list.
BUT...I still DO have the 2008 list on a sortable Excel spreadsheet. PM me with your e-mail address if you'd like a copy.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Zillini

Just wanted to correct/clarify some things. The chapters do not have a say in how many women they get through Formal Recruitment nor does Chapter Total have any bearing on this number. Panhellenic attempts to match bids so that the maximum number of PNMs receive bids AND the maximum number of chapters achieve quota.

All chapters who participate in Formal Recruitment are obligated to take Upperclassmen. There is a seperate Upperclassmen quota for them and handled in an identical manner as Freshmen quota. If a chapter misses the Upperclassmen quota they may snap bid another Upperclassmen to achieve it. They may not snap another Freshmen to fill Upperclassmen quota or vice versa. FYI - Panhellenic only reports the Freshmen quota to our I/natls. So from an I/natl statistical standpoint, Upperclassmen are counted as quota additions.

Panhellenic also determines who quota additions are and how many each chapter receives. This is not based on Chapter Total either, rather a continued attempt to place as many PNMs as possible in the chapters which the PNMs preffed yet didn't match. Panhellenic balances them out so that no single chapter receives say 20 quota additions while everyone else gets 0.

Snap bidding only occurs during Formal Recruitment to get up to Quota. After that it is called COB (Continuous Open Bidding) or COR (Continuous Open Recruitment). Chapters that achieved quota through Formal Recruitment yet are still below Chapter Total don't snap up to Total. In "regular" years (for lack of a better word), any chapter that was still below Total could COB/COR right away or throughout the semester/year until they achieved Total. However this year with Alpha Phi's colonization there is a moratorium on COR so that they may recruit without potential competition. (I don't recall the date when the moratorium is lifted.)



Thank you! I'd also like to thank all alums who contribute their time to their local chapter's Recruitment -- especially the Advisors. I'd also like to thank their families who put up with them being away from home so much. Recruitment is pure insanity with ridicously long hours, especially at a large competitive school like Bama. For the college age girls it's not nearly as big a hardship since this is the only thing going on in their lives. But for the alums who are juggling families, jobs and other real life obligations, it takes a real toll -- physically with the long, crazy hours and emotionally with the intense stress to make sure everything is done perfectly. The world will come to an end if the wrong PNM gets invited/cut.

The earliest I got home on any night was midnight. Those were the nights when it was the first half of a two day round. The latest was 4:30am. Yet I still had to be up everyday at 6:30am to get my kids ready for school. I saw my Hubby long enough each day to say "Hi". I was ready to walk out the door as soon as he got home from work to take care of the kids.

Thanks for this!

I really misunderstood a lot, particularly about upperclassmen quota. That's for taking the time to put it all together.