Alabama Recruitment Prediction (Fall 2008)

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by AuburnMom08

Most girls don't choose old row, old row chooses them. LOL

Exactly!

Originally Posted by AuburnMom08

Here is a good chart that shows the range:
http://bama.ua.edu/~greeklif/Greek%20Data/Fraterntiy%20Cost.doc

If that link doesn't work let me know and i'll copy/paste.

Good data, but it's for fraternities.
Here's what was in the Panhellenic book: http://www.greeklife.ua.edu/docs/Rush_Drake_Final.pdf

[Aphigal]

Originally Posted by Bamamom13

Went to The Trunk yesterday....and they already have a section for Alpha Phi. Their house looks beautiful from the outside and the rumors were that over 150 girls had already signed up for interviews. It seems that not only has Bama welcomed Alpha Phi, but they have rolled out the red carpet. It was wonderful to see!

Right now its higher than that and our marketing isn't set till kicking off till today!

We cannot wait to join the fabulous groups at Alabama and would not have been this successful so far without their support.

I wait on pins and needles to hear more from the team down there....

[peaches321]

Originally Posted by estherjb

Here's the answer I got on last year's Bama thread. There was some debate about who was part of the group. I saw some longer lists and some the same size but with different names.

"As far as old row, I thought at Alabama that included Kappa Kappa Gamma, Kappa Delta, Chi Omega, Tri-Delt, & Alpha Gamma Delta. My hubby reminded me that Alpha Chi Omega & Phi Mu are or were sometimes considered Old Row (back in school when we were both there) as well!

We all jokingly said it was whomever was invited to Lake Party that year. Ha Ha!"

You Bama folks would know what Lake Party is.

Having laundered Old Row t-shirts all summer while my daughter was home, I can confirm that the seven are AXO, Kappa, KD, XO, Phi Mu, DDD, and AGD. That said, I can't rattle off the six frats as quickly.

[Titchou]

I can't locate the bid lsit. Is it up yet? THanks!

[peaches321]

I haven't seen it yet! I've been monitoring uanew.ua.edu in addition to the panhellenic website, since it appeared both places last fall. Maybe later this morning?

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I can't locate the bid lsit. Is it up yet? THanks!

No

[AuburnMom08]

I still have a log in for the student section and I've spent the last several minutes looking all over "my bama" for the list, just in case it was posted somewhere in there for some reason - ha ha.

This is the link it will be on if and when they put it up - http://bama.ua.edu/~greeklif/News.html

The Birmingham News may have it up first.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by peaches321

This is only my second year having a daughter at Bama, but I'm coming progressively more adept at explaining what happens. Assuming that everyone made recruitment quota- some chapters will have stopped at recruitment quota, some will have taken the opportunity to add those upperclassmen that aren't part of that first number, some will have had quota additions on top of quota, and some will have possibly utilized recruitment to fill in any spots that take them to chapter total. Chapters that reached chapter total by just taking recruitment quota who did not extend bids to upperclassmen will report that recruitment quota as quota, BUT any chapter that had any of the other numbers added in will possibly refer to that new number as quota. At least, until the Real Report comes out.

The important thing is, every one of these new sisters is a part of the fall new member class, and that's what counts. So, depending upon which delirious Bama sister you get to slow down long enough to give you an answer... you'll get a different number.

Originally Posted by peaches321

Many of the houses do not take upperclassmen. You are correct.

Just wanted to correct/clarify some things. The chapters do not have a say in how many women they get through Formal Recruitment nor does Chapter Total have any bearing on this number. Panhellenic attempts to match bids so that the maximum number of PNMs receive bids AND the maximum number of chapters achieve quota.

All chapters who participate in Formal Recruitment are obligated to take Upperclassmen. There is a seperate Upperclassmen quota for them and handled in an identical manner as Freshmen quota. If a chapter misses the Upperclassmen quota they may snap bid another Upperclassmen to achieve it. They may not snap another Freshmen to fill Upperclassmen quota or vice versa. FYI - Panhellenic only reports the Freshmen quota to our I/natls. So from an I/natl statistical standpoint, Upperclassmen are counted as quota additions.

Panhellenic also determines who quota additions are and how many each chapter receives. This is not based on Chapter Total either, rather a continued attempt to place as many PNMs as possible in the chapters which the PNMs preffed yet didn't match. Panhellenic balances them out so that no single chapter receives say 20 quota additions while everyone else gets 0.

Snap bidding only occurs during Formal Recruitment to get up to Quota. After that it is called COB (Continuous Open Bidding) or COR (Continuous Open Recruitment). Chapters that achieved quota through Formal Recruitment yet are still below Chapter Total don't snap up to Total. In "regular" years (for lack of a better word), any chapter that was still below Total could COB/COR right away or throughout the semester/year until they achieved Total. However this year with Alpha Phi's colonization there is a moratorium on COR so that they may recruit without potential competition. (I don't recall the date when the moratorium is lifted.)

Originally Posted by BBelleADPi

Zillini:

From one alum to another, thanks for all the hard work you put into the sorority and this chapter. I know this time of year, especially, is tiring on you and your family. Just want you to know that you are appreciated!

Thank you! I'd also like to thank all alums who contribute their time to their local chapter's Recruitment -- especially the Advisors. I'd also like to thank their families who put up with them being away from home so much. Recruitment is pure insanity with ridicously long hours, especially at a large competitive school like Bama. For the college age girls it's not nearly as big a hardship since this is the only thing going on in their lives. But for the alums who are juggling families, jobs and other real life obligations, it takes a real toll -- physically with the long, crazy hours and emotionally with the intense stress to make sure everything is done perfectly. The world will come to an end if the wrong PNM gets invited/cut.

The earliest I got home on any night was midnight. Those were the nights when it was the first half of a two day round. The latest was 4:30am. Yet I still had to be up everyday at 6:30am to get my kids ready for school. I saw my Hubby long enough each day to say "Hi". I was ready to walk out the door as soon as he got home from work to take care of the kids.

[Army Wife'79]

Good heavens, Zillini, as Army Wives we would automatically activate our "Mommy Brigade" and show up at your door with casseroles, muffins, your dry cleaning and shuttle your kids to school. I wish someone would have done this for you.

[Nhfulmer]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

At UGA? Totally. And I'm hoping for this year. [Sorry, weirdly, I though I was posting to DGDramaDawg there for a minute.]

I though that all but one of the groups at Alabama made quota last year, and the group that didn't wasn't even participating in formal. Am I misremembering?

ETA: I was. One group that participated didn't quiet make quota during formal, but didn't seem to be too far off.

Two groups that participated in formal rush in 2007 did NOT make quota.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by peaches321

Zillini,Thank you for clearing up any confusion I may have caused! Two questions: 1. Isn't it true that chapters can choose NOT to extend bids to upperclassmen even though that means those bids cannot be extended to freshmen?

No. If a chapter participates in Bama's Formal Recruitment they must accept Upperclassmen. After each round we are given a number of Upperclassmen we must invite back to the next round. We must submit an Upperclassmen Bid List. After bid matching, we must then pledge those Upperclassmen who matched/received bids.

2. Do you think Panhellenic will hold off on publishing the list until Alpha Phi has a pledge class to post as well?

While I understand your logic, I doubt it. There are simply too many interested parties (collegians, parents, alums, friends and other family members) who want to know this info. Holding off for several weeks might cause an uproar. Instead I suspect the reason why it hasn't been posted yet is that Panhellenic or UA News website simply hasn't gotten around to it. It should be coming soon.

[Nhfulmer]

Originally Posted by bamazta

I am so excited to say that after a grueling week my daughter has pledged ZTA at Bama!!! She is very excited about it.

Only the best get crowned. Congratulations to her from an alum in North Carolina.

[AuburnMom08]

Congrats to you both, bamazta. My daughter LOVED the ZTA's at Auburn.

[ua70s]

The list is up:

http://uanews.ua.edu/index.htm

[NancyT6061]

Does anyone know where and when Bid Day results will be posted for the University of Alabama recruitment?