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Old 08-10-2008, 10:27 PM
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Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:35 PM
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Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.
There is NO desire for a super-mod to override a mod --that came from Deltalum... We have a desire for John to get his ass in gear and fix what needs fixing. ***cough** mods who mod for personal reasons over and over for YEARS***cough***
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:29 AM
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Dang that other "why" thread must have taken a turn after my "experience=children" post, because there wasn't any cursing or insulting going on before that.

What I don't understand is why any one poster is held in higher regard than others. It seems as though its ok for posters (mainly new ones) to insult people like OTW, yet its not ok for an older poster (like they signed up years ago) to "insult" (if that's what you wanna call it) someone else. That's pretty crappy moderating if you ask me.

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As for LL's post- while I did like, it needed a little tweaking. It was a great smackdown for the HMs, but there will also be moms coming here to post (and tons more to just read) who are genuinely sad and upset, and just want some advice on how to counsel their daughters. Not all the moms are Helicopter Moms, and given how incredibly important sorority recruitment is- EASILY the MOST emotionally driven aspect of Greek Life- it needed a little bit of finesse in parts.
I'll admit I didn't read LL's original thread, it was moved before I even got to see it. Yet i'm confident enough in many GCers to know that if they are upset about it, then there is something wrong.

Mom's who are upset & sad are welcome to post, I don't think there is anyone here who is denying that. Yet, how many moms have come here peacefully. Pretty much none of them, they resort to all sorts of insults. Look @ what happened last night in Jill's thread. Calling members "nasty witches," hoping her daughter doesn't join our sorority, etc. That's what we go through practically everytime.

There are always going to be disagreements, but deleting/moving the topic does not help matters. Certain moderators don't seem to care about that. They care more about the new members' feelings & opinions, than they ever are about the older members. How is that right?
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:38 AM
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epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:49 AM
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epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.
Exactly. Like you said, moderating should be there for the more vulgar exchanges, as well as to stop any more personal attacks (i.e. BA & Earp stalkerish behaviors). They should not be there to decide who's opinion is more valid than another. That goes for moderator's opinions as well. I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.
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Old 08-11-2008, 08:47 AM
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I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:36 PM
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Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.
We disagree because I would view LL's post as her opinion, and only her opinion. As such, it needs no tweaking. Comments (tweaks?) about her opinion come in the form of posts to her thread from other users. I don't think mods should edit or delete someone's opinion to make it their own. You leave it as is, then add your own 2 cents in your own post. That way a reader can see different sides and make their own decision.
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