Kappa Beta Gamma/Kappa Delta

KD_Lady · #1 07-21-2008, 02:44 PM

So many NPC sorority chapters began as local sororities or members of small national organizations. I don't think it's very fair to isolate this particular group. As groups and campuses grow and change, it's natural for sororities to evolve as well. I believe that Chi Omega is also present on the F&M campus, and NPC affiliation may have been vital for the chapter to sustain itself in that environment.

ilovetheviolets · #2 07-21-2008, 03:07 PM

I appreciate your point, but I can vouch that NPC affiliation is not necessary to survive at F&M as KBG has actually began to thrive over the last few years (from what I've seen and heard). 2 of their recent alumnae actually recieved the highest award that F&M offers upon graduation.

P.S...I read somewhere that they seemed like an "I want it now" type of chapter...and though I respect the women there, you should know that they started as an "I want it now" type of chapter who did not go through creating an interest group b/c they knew no NPC would start there at the time (even though re-recognition was happening the next year). None went through formal recruitment (or informal recruitment), they just wanted letters, and actually at first wore tri-delta letters b/c they thought that's what you did. That atleast is how it looked from the outside. I appreciate that KD is there now so hopefully that means their values have switched and they will take it all more seriously.

flowerpixie3 · #3 08-25-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetheviolets

I appreciate your point, but I can vouch that NPC affiliation is not necessary to survive at F&M as KBG has actually began to thrive over the last few years (from what I've seen and heard). 2 of their recent alumnae actually recieved the highest award that F&M offers upon graduation.

P.S...I read somewhere that they seemed like an "I want it now" type of chapter...and though I respect the women there, you should know that they started as an "I want it now" type of chapter who did not go through creating an interest group b/c they knew no NPC would start there at the time (even though re-recognition was happening the next year). None went through formal recruitment (or informal recruitment), they just wanted letters, and actually at first wore tri-delta letters b/c they thought that's what you did. That atleast is how it looked from the outside. I appreciate that KD is there now so hopefully that means their values have switched and they will take it all more seriously.

ilovetheviolets, think you should check your facts on all this info! the original chapter was never the 'i want it now' sort of girls, and it's a bit insulting for you to say that. they did try to start an interest group and asked panhellenic council to open for expansion so that national groups could come. the panhellenic council at that time outright refused to do this, never giving reasons, and the interest group that became a local sorority at that time were forced to look outside the NPC sororities for a national group. this had nothing to do with them wanting to wear letters or an 'i want it now' attitude, they put the work in and did the research for over a year so i'm not sure where you even got your info from.
second off recognition was still a few years down the line and was not officially put in place until the fall of 2004. i believe that KBG was contact over the summer of 2002. and i'm not really sure what rerecognition has to do with a group of girls wanting to start a new sorority, except that they may have had more support from the administration at that time.
and a few girls did go through formal rush with the two sororities that were on campus at the time, but decided that they just weren't the right fit for them. if other founders of the chapter didn't go through, this might have also been because they didn't think the two sororities were what they were looking for, but when the offer of a third sorority came up they felt that was where they did fit in.
i think your judgements on what the founders did or didn't do was a bit harsh and not very factual. so despite what 'it looked like from the outside' it was actually very different. also, it doesn't have anything to do with values changing, as the girls in that organisation have always had very high values and still do.

kappadivstar · #4 01-23-2009, 04:52 PM

Wow...I just found this thread and I realize it's like 6 months old- by my chapter basically got beat to hell in this extremely one sided story. Its unfortunate that no one from our chapter was apparently on this board at this time.

Can I take this time to point out that the two chapters being "colonized" never happened, and the KBG website STILL hasn't been updated? This is ridiculous. I am so offended by this.

KSUViolet06 · #5 01-23-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kappadivstar

Wow...I just found this thread and I realize it's like 6 months old- by my chapter basically got beat to hell in this extremely one sided story. Its unfortunate that no one from our chapter was apparently on this board at this time.

Can I take this time to point out that the two chapters being "colonized" never happened, and the KBG website STILL hasn't been updated? This is ridiculous. I am so offended by this.

Wow. I'd say "beat to hell" is a little dramatic.

Also, I love how you're offended by the discussion, so you bump it up so people can talk about it some more.

kappadivstar · #6 01-23-2009, 05:08 PM

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Wow. I'd say "beat to hell" is a little dramatic.

Also, I love how you're offended by the discussion, so you bump it up so people can talk about it some more.

I didn't bump it neccessarily for that reason, I just thought it was unfair how one-sided it was, and I figured that it would be good to hear the other side.

Guess not. I'll go back to being a "disloyal asshat".

KSUViolet06 · #7 01-23-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kappadivstar

I didn't bump it neccessarily for that reason, I just thought it was unfair how one-sided it was, and I figured that it would be good to hear the other side.

Guess not. I'll go back to being a "disloyal asshat".

But you didn't GIVE anyone an other side. You just said you were "beat to hell" and were offended.

We've had members of former KBG chapters come here and give details from their side of the fence, and they said alot more than "I'm offended."

lucgreek · #8 01-24-2009, 07:28 PM

I don't know if you can answer this but which NPCs wanted to present to you guys and which ones actually presented before you chose KKG?

kappadivstar · #9 01-24-2009, 10:51 PM

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I don't know if you can answer this but which NPCs wanted to present to you guys and which ones actually presented before you chose KKG?

I'll PM you, lucgreek. I don't think its something I should post on the forum, but a lot of people at Loyola know because of Panhel, etc.

33girl · #10 07-21-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KD_Lady

So many NPC sorority chapters began as local sororities or members of small national organizations.

Locals, yes.

Regionals, maybe.

Small national organizations...well...considering there really aren't very many of those, I would say no. Unless you consider a "regional" a "small national."

**wanting PhiPsiRuss to come back for this thread**