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Old 07-18-2008, 03:53 PM
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Okay, wait. I'll clarify.

The designer was quoted as saying that he believes that most Americans look at Obama and think "slave".

I disagree that most Americans think "slave" when looking at Obama. This isn't because I don't think there are racist people in America. (That would be off-the-charts naive.) It's because none of us were alive when slavery in this country existed. Thus, even though we know it existed, it isn't part of our personal frame of reference.

I just don't think that even your average racist in this country thinks "slave" when they look at African Americans. I believe they think other things.

The designer's being Israeli isn't the point here. It's the fact that he is not an American. I don't think he understands what we think.

ETA: I'm NOT excusing his stupid beliefs because he's a foreigner. I'm just saying he doesn't understand Americans. Beyond that, I think he's a turd.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:55 PM
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Okay, wait. I'll clarify.

The designer was quoted as saying that he believes that most Americans look at Obama and think "slave".

I disagree that most Americans think "slave" when looking at Obama. This isn't because I don't think there are racist people in America. (That would be off-the-charts naive.) It's because none of us were alive when slavery in this country existed. Thus, even though we know it existed, it isn't part of our personal frame of reference.

I just don't think that even your average racist in this country thinks "slave" when they look at African Americans. I believe they think other things.

The designer's being Israeli isn't the point here. It's the fact that he is not an American. I don't think he understands what we think.

I disagree.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:16 PM
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I disagree.
Could you explain why? I'm not trying to be controversial nor patronizing. I'd just really like to know what your take on this is.


preciousjeni, I think we're actually all opposed to this guy and his t-shirts but somehow we're getting our wires crosses in the discussion. I'm probably not getting my point across effectively...as usual.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:11 PM
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The designer was quoted as saying that he believes that most Americans look at Obama and think "slave".
IIRC, he specified "WASPs" who, technically are the physical majority, but probably not the majority with respect to what you're saying.

ETA: Actually, when I think about it, it's probably not the Ps that are in the majority, but the RCs.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:35 PM
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I disagree that most Americans think "slave" when looking at Obama. This isn't because I don't think there are racist people in America. (That would be off-the-charts naive.) It's because none of us were alive when slavery in this country existed. Thus, even though we know it existed, it isn't part of our personal frame of reference.

I just don't think that even your average racist in this country thinks "slave" when they look at African Americans. I believe they think other things..
I disagree with your comments above.

I can say plenty more. But, dude isn't a citizen so WTF should I care about what he does if he cannot vote? Boo to the dumb fucktarded citizens that spend $70 for bootleg ironed on lettered shirt.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:13 PM
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I disagree with your comments above.

I can say plenty more. But, dude isn't a citizen so WTF should I care about what he does if he cannot vote? Boo to the dumb fucktarded citizens that spend $70 for bootleg ironed on lettered shirt.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:17 PM
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[QUOTE=AKA_Monet;1683429]I disagree with your comments above.

I can say plenty more. But, dude isn't a citizen so WTF should I care about what he does if he cannot vote? Boo to the dumb fucktarded citizens that spend $70 for bootleg ironed on lettered shirt.[/QUOTE]

'nuff said soror!
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:25 PM
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he should get his ass kicked for calling himself a designer.














kinneygardin lookin...bamma ass tight shirt!!
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