NPHC grade requirements?

UGAalum94 · #1 07-13-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet

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But is a comparison in anyone's lane?

It's not just about NPHC policy really.

MeezDiscreet · #2 07-13-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But is a comparison in anyone's lane?

It's not just about NPHC policy really.

Go back and read the first post...

UGAalum94 · #3 07-13-2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet

Go back and read the first post...

I can see you are right and the OP does ask that.

Would we really be better off has she not wondered?

I think it helps the reputation of all groups for people to understand that even if the chapter on your campus isn't doing well scholastically, the national organization does value it.

DSTCHAOS · #4 07-13-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Would we really be better off has she not wondered?

She can wonder all she wants. We will respond to it however we choose to.

She's not the first to ask that type of question (educational achievement is a hot topic in the black community, among educators, and big in NPHC orgs) but how the question gets answered often depends on the asker and how the question is phrased. I don't like how the topic was framed

DSTCHAOS · #5 07-13-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But is a comparison in anyone's lane?

It's not just about NPHC policy really.

Nah but this is just a...strange topic.

And the OP is...strange...and operated from a strange premise. The title is...strange because I was about to tell the person to look up our GPA requirements for pursuing membership and move on. I figured it was obvious that all GLOs are held to some academic standard at every school that has academic standards for students and GLOs. Why would NPHC orgs not be held to a GPA standard?

(I'm not even concerned with the different explanations for why GPAs vary.)

UGAalum94 · #6 07-13-2008, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Nah but this is just a...strange topic.

And the OP is...strange...and operated from a strange premise. The title is...strange because I was about to tell the person to look up our GPA requirements for pursuing membership and move on. I figured it was obvious that all GLOs are held to some academic standard at every school that has academic standards for students and GLOs. Why would NPHC orgs not be held to a GPA standard?

(I'm not even concerned with the different explanations for why GPAs vary.)

Well, let's say you were from a campus where the chapters of the NPC groups all had bad GPAs and one in particular was below a 2.0, so you felt pretty sure that no national org. was going to be cool with that. (When it's above a 2.0 it could just be difference in group cut standards.)

And yet, the groups all seems to be participating in all the activities that your group might shut down if the chapter's grades were too low. (To tell you the truth, I have no idea what happens if you don't meet the GPA requirements of you organization and your campus, but I'm assuming there would be social penalties, maybe?) So if the NPCs basically just seemed to be skating along, wouldn't you be a little curious about what was up with that?

And if you had an outlet to ask this question without saying it face to face, might you not give it a whirl?

MeezDiscreet · #7 07-13-2008, 02:36 AM

You know why that question is hard for me to answer (even though you didn't necessarily ask me but my soror DSTChaos)?

Because I wouldn't even know what the GPAs of those other groups are because I wouldn't care enough about those things to find out.

UGAalum94 · #8 07-13-2008, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MeezDiscreet

You know why that question is hard for me to answer (even though you didn't necessarily ask me but my soror DSTChaos)?

Because I wouldn't even know what the GPAs of those other groups are because I wouldn't care enough about those things to find out.

Well, some campuses print out grade reports that have every chapter listed by GPA. Sometimes they are done by council or conference and sometimes it includes every GLO on campus. It seems like the OP's school puts everyone on the same list.

DSTCHAOS · #9 07-13-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Well, let's say you were from a campus where the chapters of the NPC groups all had bad GPAs and one in particular was below a 2.0, so you felt pretty sure that no national org. was going to be cool with that. (When it's above a 2.0 it could just be difference in group cut standards.)

And yet, the groups all seems to be participating in all the activities that your group might shut down if the chapter's grades were too low. (To tell you the truth, I have no idea what happens if you don't meet the GPA requirements of you organization and your campus, but I'm assuming there would be social penalties, maybe?) So if the NPCs basically just seemed to be skating along, wouldn't you be a little curious about what was up with that?

That wasn't the OP's question. The OP never said anything about NPHC orgs not being on social probation and carrying on business as usual eventhough they have fallen below the GPA minimum. Instead, the OP doesn't know what's going on, beyond some stats, and expects us to chime in.

To answer your question, I wouldn't care at a philosophical level because I had a yard to run and the NPC and IFC orgs just weren't part of that equation (except for the 1 fraternity that we did joint programs with).

When I was an undergrad, I wouldn't have been curious unless I knew that these groups were violating some rules that the SCHOOL has set forth and they were getting consideration that the NPHC orgs weren't. And if the OP knows that some SCHOOL rules are being violated, her/his questions would be answered. And she'd know that SCHOOL rules often trump organizational rules when it comes to things like academic performance.