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08-29-2006, 12:13 AM
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Yeah something about the story just didn't add up. I figure he was just mentally ill and making things up, to be honest.
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08-29-2006, 12:16 AM
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Yeah something about the story just didn't add up. I figure he was just mentally ill and making things up, to be honest.
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I made that same comment at a family dinner last night. To my surprise, a family member who works for ABC News agreed with me and said that many in the office thought the same.
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08-29-2006, 08:09 PM
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What does that prove? If DNA was the definitive proof of innocense or guilty then why didn't the police rule the family out as suspects when their DNA didn't match either? What DNA did they compare? As I remember there was one strand of hair found on the body. As stray hair could come from anywhere. It may or may not belong to the killer. It could have been transfered from anyone that the victim met during the weeks before the crime. Was there other DNA found on the body like body fluids?
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08-29-2006, 08:26 PM
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What does that prove? If DNA was the definitive proof of innocense or guilty then why didn't the police rule the family out as suspects when their DNA didn't match either? What DNA did they compare? As I remember there was one strand of hair found on the body. As stray hair could come from anywhere. It may or may not belong to the killer. It could have been transfered from anyone that the victim met during the weeks before the crime. Was there other DNA found on the body like body fluids?
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There was DNA sample in her PJ's or underwear......
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08-29-2006, 11:14 PM
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There was DNA sample in her PJ's or underwear......
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And under her fingernails.
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08-30-2006, 04:25 PM
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And under her fingernails.
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Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?
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08-30-2006, 04:34 PM
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Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?
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DNA sample is still from an unkown source.
The only 'odd' 'new' bit of info I think I overheard at press conference was that sample is a mix.....not sure if I heard or understood that correctly however.
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08-30-2006, 05:31 PM
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As I remeber saaying in an earlier post, I said this guy did not do it.
Just a nut case and from what He said initially, I was correct.
While I did not have all or any of the evidence, there is from working cases in Homocide, he was to far out there and no real conection.
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08-30-2006, 11:19 PM
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the guy got what he wanted, attention
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08-31-2006, 12:48 AM
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Did it match the parents? If it didn't match then how come the parents are still suspects?
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You can't rule out the parents because their DNA would be all over the place - they lived there, too. Plus, the crime scene was mishandled from the very first moment.
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08-31-2006, 05:37 PM
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You can't rule out the parents because their DNA would be all over the place - they lived there, too.
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Was their DNA all over the place? If the parent's DNA was found in the usuall places like their bathroom on their toothbrushes is that the same as finding DNA on the body and in JonBenet's panties? Whose DNA was found on the body? It wasn't the parents.
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Plus, the crime scene was mishandled from the very first moment.
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No . That is part of my point except I am the only person in here smart enough to figure it out while the rest of you idiots are talking about handbags. Just because the DNA doesn't match John Karr it doesn't prove anything. If it did match it still wouldn't prove anything. The police don't know the source of the DNA. They don't know how it got there and they obviously don't know if it belongs to the killer or just a random person that JonBenet had contact with. The DNA could come from anywhere. You can transfer DNA by shaking someone's hand or by standing in an elevator with someone that sneezes or coughs. If you saw the DNA in a hotel room you would probably prefer to sleep in your car. A hotel room is filled with , chit, , cum, boogers and nose hairs.
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09-01-2006, 10:15 AM
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the guy got what he wanted, attention
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This may have been mentioned before, but I understand the guy was up on charges in SE Asia -- and the jails are a lot "nicer" here.
He got a very nice airplane flight "home."
The Boulder DA has been criticized by Governer Bill Owens and many others, but a very high profile local defense lawyer who consults with one of the local TV stations thinks that she (the DA) handled it exactly right, and really didn't have much choice in the situation because the former suspect was a flight risk and his "confession."
It took a lot of nerve and some high professional standards to drop the charge as quickly as she did in my opinion.
Unfortunately, there wasn't enough evidence to charge.
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09-02-2006, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax
Was their DNA all over the place? If the parent's DNA was found in the usuall places like their bathroom on their toothbrushes is that the same as finding DNA on the body and in JonBenet's panties? Whose DNA was found on the body? It wasn't the parents.
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And you know this how? Of course her parents' DNA was on her body by the time her father carried her body upstairs, then moved her to under the Christmas tree, with both of them (understandably) crying and hugging the body!
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No . That is part of my point except I am the only person in here smart enough to figure it out while the rest of you idiots are talking about handbags.
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Got the wrong person here, too. You've not seen my name in the handbag thread, because I'm not into them as much as others.
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Just because the DNA doesn't match John Karr it doesn't prove anything. If it did match it still wouldn't prove anything. The police don't know the source of the DNA. They don't know how it got there and they obviously don't know if it belongs to the killer or just a random person that JonBenet had contact with. The DNA could come from anywhere. You can transfer DNA by shaking someone's hand or by standing in an elevator with someone that sneezes or coughs. If you saw the DNA in a hotel room you would probably prefer to sleep in your car. A hotel room is filled with , chit, , cum, boogers and nose hairs.
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Again, you have the wrong person, bucco. Unfortunately, I was given a little lesson on this by someone in the hotel industry - including the part that most states mandate that hotel bedspreads only need to be washed every 90 days.
Bottom line is, the first and best suspects are always in the family. It's usually a matter of proving that it's not someone from the family than it is. Do I want the Ramseys to have defiled their little girl? No. Do I suspect that they had *something* to do with it? Absolutely.
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07-09-2008, 03:04 PM
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Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death
Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death
New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father
BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago
DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/
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07-09-2008, 03:55 PM
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Family cleared in JonBenet Ramsey’s death
New DNA test finds no link, DA says in letter to Colorado girl’s father
BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC and NBC News
updated 7 minutes ago
DENVER - Newly discovered DNA evidence in the notorious JonBenet Ramsey murder case does not match any Ramsey family members or anyone in law enforcement DNA databases, NBC affiliate KUSA reported Wednesday.
The discovery, from a new testing method, prompted the Boulder district attorney’s office to release a letter officially clearing the Ramsey family, including John, Patsy and their immediate family, of any involvement in the December 1996 death of the 6-year-old.....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25608543/
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Too bad this news came after Patsy died.  RIP, Patsy.
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