New movie-making fun of greeks??

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by heyitszeta

What about the incoming freshman this year? What if they see this movie and it seriously hurts our chances of meeting our quota? Then is it enough harm? Or should we feel safe enough because there is a higher likelihood that the rest of the nation would think ZTA? If the movie portrays the Zetas badly, it could certainly have an effect on the PNMs. If we did choose to be upset about this, would you think that we are as justified as ZTA, or would you say that because we are a local our concerns are not as important?

You know, I don't know that I would want some idiot who was taking the reputation of a fictional sorority to be the gospel for all chapters in my sorority anyway.

From what I understand, the Phi Mus here have hardly said a word in this thread and the Phi Iota Mus or whatever the fictional sorority is, is the one being portrayed as the "evil" ones in this movie.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

You know, I don't know that I would want some idiot who was taking the reputation of a fictional sorority to be the gospel for all chapters in my sorority anyway.

From what I understand, the Phi Mus here have hardly said a word in this thread and the Phi Iota Mus or whatever the fictional sorority is, is the one being portrayed as the "evil" ones in this movie.

It may be because all of the promo materials I have seen have featured the "Zetas" more than the "Phi Mus".

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

It may be because all of the promo materials I have seen have featured the "Zetas" more than the "Phi Mus".

Right.. but the Zeta ALPHA Zetas are supposed to be the underdog sorority that prevails in the end and become the super hot sorority that everyone wants to pledge. Tell me again why everyone is pissed off?

For those crying foul and getting pissed off at those not sharing your opinion of the movie, what can you seriously do about it by bitching on a message board?

Let the IO handle it and don't bother watching the movie. It'll be forgotten in no time.

And yes, this is the same opinion I'd have if it were my letters featured in the movie.

ETA: There was so much Greek outcry when "Pledged" was published. I know a lot of people wanted to know what all this brouhaha was about, so they bought the book. It'd suck if The House Bunny were the same way.

Just sayin'.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Right.. but the Zeta ALPHA Zetas are supposed to be the underdog sorority that prevails in the end and become the super hot sorority that everyone wants to pledge. Tell me again why everyone is pissed off?

I can only speak for myself - I'm not "pissed off". I wonder why the film makers felt they had to reference existing orgs - and no, I don't believe it "just happened". I don't like the idea of any GLO's copyrighted/trademarked or just identifying symbols being used without their permisson. I can't pretend that I would have seen the movie even without the apparent reference to Zeta and Phi Mu - but it's one more reason why they won't be getting my money.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Right.. but the Zeta ALPHA Zetas are supposed to be the underdog sorority that prevails in the end and become the super hot sorority that everyone wants to pledge. Tell me again why everyone is pissed off?

Because they are initially portrayed as a group of ugly, socially unacceptable girls who no one wants to join. They don't prevail in the end because of anything they do on their own or their inner beauty - they prevail because a Playboy Bunny gives them a makeover.

To heyitszeta - you are a co-ed fraternity, not a sorority. No one is going to confuse you with the group in the movie.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because they are initially portrayed as a group of ugly, socially unacceptable girls who no one wants to join. They don't prevail in the end because of anything they do on their own or their inner beauty - they prevail because a Playboy Bunny gives them a makeover.

To heyitszeta - you are a co-ed fraternity, not a sorority. No one is going to confuse you with the group in the movie.

I agree to some degree because I haven't seen the movie, but like it or not, chapter image problems are things that ALL GLOs deal with - whether it is a male/female/or coed GLO.

Since I haven't seen the movie and I don't even think it's released yet, who's to say that people want to join this ZAZ chapter soley based on their looks?

[heyitszeta]

Originally Posted by 33girl

To heyitszeta - you are a co-ed fraternity, not a sorority. No one is going to confuse you with the group in the movie.

But this is my GLO's history they are referencing here...shouldn't I be worried? I don't anyone to think we were ever anything but perfect.

(In case some people miss the sarcasm- and all of my last posts- I'm NOT worried about this movie. I'm merely making a point...Which I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do on an internet forum.)

[33girl]

Originally Posted by heyitszeta

But this is my GLO's history they are referencing here...shouldn't I be worried? I don't anyone to think we were ever anything but perfect.

(In case some people miss the sarcasm- and all of my last posts- I'm NOT worried about this movie. I'm merely making a point...Which I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do on an internet forum.)

Did you start as a sorority? If not, then NO it's not your GLO's history.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

In one clip I saw, the letter "E" was missing from the chapter house and it said "Z TA." They probably wouldn't win the lawsuit because they are a public organization and would have to prove malicious intent on the part of Happy Madison to have a case.

I think you're thinking about defamation (libel or slander) cases, where public figures must prove actual malice and disregard for the truth to recover. I assume that any action about this movie would be for trademark/copyright infringement, not defamation. I'm not saying a lawsuit would be successful, but actual malice wouldn't enter into it.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Did you start as a sorority? If not, then NO it's not your GLO's history.

ZTZ started off as a sorority and went co-ed in the 80s due to membership struggles.

Anywho, I went back to watch the trailer because I didn't remember "getting" any references to ZTA when I first saw the trailer months ago. After watching it again, and actually looking for the references to ZTA I still don't really see it. From what I can tell from the trailer the letters over the house aren't even up that long because when the house bunny arrives at the sorority house to apply for the job both the Z and the E fall on her head. They have gray shirts on in the movie, but, to me, the blue is no where close to the turquoise of ZTA.

[heyitszeta]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Did you start as a sorority? If not, then NO it's not your GLO's history.

We started as a sorority, technically went co-ed in the mid 80s and did not really become co-ed until quite recently. During the 80s and 90s I'm not sure we even had any male members. So our image has been that of a sorority until about 2006. And I wasn't venturing a guess when I said the sorority was based on us...it actually is. That's not to say I can't see how the movie would be seen as representing ZTA because of Zeta and the color and stuff, I can. But I'm not just coming in saying "oh hey, look at us, we're Zetas too, count us in!" haha. I just wanted to bring up that sometimes it's good to remember that there are other people in this world, and not everything is always about you. And I have noticed an attitude in this thread that if not alot of people know your org and it's local, it's not a big deal and nothing affects you. People who go to small colleges see movies too. Let me assure you, if we found this movie seriously offensive (like ZAZs were all drug dealers and sluts or something) we would be upset just as much as ZTA and would have just as much right to be, despite being a lesser known local.

That being said, I'm honestly tired of arguing over a pointless movie. So if anyone wants to claim they are right and I'm wrong, feel free. I'll probably still read this thread for amusement though.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because they are initially portrayed as a group of ugly, socially unacceptable girls who no one wants to join. They don't prevail in the end because of anything they do on their own or their inner beauty - they prevail because a Playboy Bunny gives them a makeover.

I also object to such a tired excuse for a plot line, but I digress . . . .

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And I still say that Local trumps National.

You can't prove otherwise, either.

You seem to always want to argue for the sake of arguing...

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Afterall, this is a Greek Life thread about a new movie making fun of "Greeks."

If the ZTAs had started a thread in THEIR forum about THEIR concerns and THEIR national headquarter's statement, perhaps we wouldn't have cared to comment.

Um, we did. Thanks. But ZTA isn't the only org ripped off here, hence it being brought to Greek Life.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because they are initially portrayed as a group of ugly, socially unacceptable girls who no one wants to join. They don't prevail in the end because of anything they do on their own or their inner beauty - they prevail because a Playboy Bunny gives them a makeover.

To heyitszeta - you are a co-ed fraternity, not a sorority. No one is going to confuse you with the group in the movie.

Even fewer people are going to remember ZTZ as a sorority since you yourself said you are a co-ed org. That fact itself distances your org quite a bit from ZAZ in the movie.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

You seem to always want to argue for the sake of arguing...

I'm posting my opinion. You're responding because you want my attention or something. You certainly haven't changed my opinion or given me a reason to.

Move around a little...I promise I won't miss you.

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

But ZTA isn't the only org ripped off here, hence it being brought to Greek Life.

Hence the responses. Some of the ZTAs acted butthurt over the differing opinions and here we are.