Question About Quotas

[violetpretty]

I could understand if a chapter cuts WAAAAY more than the suggested number, but if it is a struggling enough chapter (i.e. if they were to actually make quota and still be under total) they'd be allowed to offer snap bids to any unmatched PNMs they want.

[owlie33]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I could understand if a chapter cuts WAAAAY more than the suggested number, but if it is a struggling enough chapter (i.e. if they were to actually make quota and still be under total) they'd be allowed to offer snap bids to any unmatched PNMs they want.

Snap bids are for chapters to fill quota, not total.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by owlie33

Snap bids are for chapters to fill quota, not total.

I'm pretty sure that some campuses do let chapters extend bids on bid day but after regular bid matching beyond quota if they were below total. Now, technically, these may not be called snap bids but they worked the same way from the PNM perspective and for the chapter too.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by owlie33

Snap bids are for chapters to fill quota, not total.

She was referring to the policy that said you had to invite the max number back to be eligible for QAs. For struggling chapters, QAs are probably a moot point. And they are allowed to snap bid/open bid anyone they want to get up to total.

[owlie33]

Originally Posted by 33girl

She was referring to the policy that said you had to invite the max number back to be eligible for QAs. For struggling chapters, QAs are probably a moot point. And they are allowed to snap bid/open bid anyone they want to get up to total.

I think we just have a terminology problem here.

Quota additions = the addition of women who did not match to bid lists of chapters who have made quota...only appliciable to chapters making quota...there are a limited number of these

Snap bids = helps chapters who didn't make quota to reach quota...only applies to those not making quota. You can snap up to quota even it it puts you over total.

A chapter that has reached quota cannot issue snap bids. The chapter can only issue COB bids if they are under total.


Also...it is a big step to say QA are a moot point for "struggling chapters"...and it would be just as big of a step to say that "popular chapters" don't usually have to snap bid. I've personally seen both scenarios.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by owlie33

I think we just have a terminology problem here.

I think you are right - we never used the phrase snap bid - an open bid was an open bid, whether the rushee in question went the whole way thru rush or not.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by 33girl

She was referring to the policy that said you had to invite the max number back to be eligible for QAs. For struggling chapters, QAs are probably a moot point. And they are allowed to snap bid/open bid anyone they want to get up to total.

Assuming there are people who want to accept the bids, which is always what makes it tricky

I think you are right that worrying about staying eligible for QAs is probably not that important for struggling chapters.

BUT, I think chapters with smaller numbers or lower returns should really think carefully about cutting folks.
The quality vs. quantity debate can go on forever, but sometimes, especially with PNMs well versed in competitive recruitment who won't telegraph their disinterest, chapters get delusional about who of the PNMs they really have a chance with and will consequently release some girls who would have been good members because they imagine they will keep perfect PNMs instead.

Don't keep crazy people who you'd be unwilling to bid and who are off putting to other PNMs, but don't get cut happy early in the process. The release figures are there for a reason; don't work against them.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by LionInMI

Hi, sorry, I have to disagree with saying this as just a blanket statement. This is not always true for every chapter on every campus in every recruitment.

I understand.

From my limited perspective, I see greater danger to a chapter from cutting too many PNMs of comparable "quality" for lack of a better word as the current members than I have from a chapter having to keep a few less desirable girls. Not making quota and being under total year after year, in my opinion, does greater damage than having a few members who you weren't dazzled by round one.

I don't mean that chapters should just bid everyone for numbers, but there's a reason to be cautious with cuts.