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Old 07-02-2008, 10:44 PM
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eta - I'm all for AEPhi handling their business anyway they wish - more power to them. But I still have to wonder (see below). Also, is this AEPhi HQ policy, or your chapter? I find many chapters have rules that are more strict than the inter/national GLO's policies.
Upon reflection, the fact that the crest IS the new member pin, minus the letters, is probably the strongest argument for AEPhi's policy. The letters are what distinguishes the new member pin from the initiated member's crest. So to over-logical me, that makes sense.
It is the AEPhi HQ policy. While most NPC orgs allow new members to wear letters but not the crest, we allow new members to wear (a version of) the crest, but not letters.

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Questions (of course you dont have to answer, being that it could be privy to your org):

1. What happens if you have a PNM who says "screw that, im wearing letters" before initiation? Is she asked to leave the pledge class? Does she get to stay with a slap on the wrist? Is she socially looked down on? Or is it something on the books but not really enforced?

2. If new members are allowed to wear the crest, are they told what those things on the crest mean? If not, isnt that the same as wearing letters they dont know the meaning of?
A PNM wouldn't be wearing any org's letters, as she hasn't pledged anywhere yet. But a new member who is seen wearing letters would just be asked to stop doing so until after initiation.

As for the crest, there is some publicly available information, and the new members would have this information before receiving their pins. More than that, I cannot say.
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:52 AM
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I think its your organizations prerogative to withhold your letters from you NMs, aephi alum. Of course there are reasons to withhold all types of paraphernalia from NMs. The badge is for initiated members only, but sometimes these rules are a little confusing and random. In the end, I agree that chapters should make sure to follow the actual rules of HQ and not the made- up rules of the individual chapter. AOII only withholds the badge from NMs. They can wear the letters and the rose (though, as a NM, I was not allowed to have anything with a rose on it because we thought that was the rule. It was a chapter rule!) I think most of the alums on GC get a little upset when collegians from our chapters come on GC with some far-fetched explanation why our org does something that clearly we know is not true.
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:58 AM
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I think its your organizations prerogative to withhold your letters from you NMs, aephi alum. Of course there are reasons to withhold all types of paraphernalia from NMs. The badge is for initiated members only, but sometimes these rules are a little confusing and random. In the end, I agree that chapters should make sure to follow the actual rules of HQ and not the made- up rules of the individual chapter. AOII only withholds the badge from NMs. They can wear the letters and the rose (though, as a NM, I was not allowed to have anything with a rose on it because we thought that was the rule. It was a chapter rule!) I think most of the alums on GC get a little upset when collegians from our chapters come on GC with some far-fetched explanation why our org does something that clearly we know is not true.
I know what you mean! I got so much grief from my "friends" from other chapters because I wore letters after Bid Day...because they weren't allowed at the time. I may not have known what they meant, but I also knew how to wear them - with pride and looking good....not all frumpy in sweats.

To each their own I guess.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:44 AM
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I'm thinking some of this confusion exists because new member periods are so short now.
With a semester-long NM period, you REALLY grind that stuff into your memory.
Now, it's just a matter of weeks.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:59 PM
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I'm thinking some of this confusion exists because new member periods are so short now.
With a semester-long NM period, you REALLY grind that stuff into your memory.
Now, it's just a matter of weeks.

Our New Member period was almost a full semester but I do know what you mean. We were the last chapter on my campus to be initiated. Most were only about a month long.
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