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Niedermeyer · #1 06-29-2008, 10:11 PM

""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

Kedzman · #2 06-29-2008, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niedermeyer

""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

How is the "big 4" defined? Do the chapters within the big 4 ever change, or is it constant? What's the history behind that?

Elephant Walk · #3 06-29-2008, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niedermeyer

""Chi Psi's not in the Big 4 is it?"

No Chi Psi is not.

My pledge brother Gregory Marmalard recently visited UNC and checked thing out. The big 4 houses at UNC are Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam.

I knew Beta and Phi Gam were up there, but weren't sure of any of the others.

Niedermeyer · #4 06-29-2008, 10:51 PM

Unfortunately, I don't know any history or facts relating to the big 4 fraternities at UNC. However, I do know several alumni from Carolina. They all say Beta, Deke, Phi Delt and Phi Gam make up the big 4. Sorry I can't eloborate.

ClassicUNC · #5 06-29-2008, 11:42 PM

The Big Four is DKE, PhiGam, PhiDelt and Beta.. however it really isn't the "Big Four" anymore; most consider Beta to have slipped a little bit. There is no movement into the Big Four. I won't mention which chapter I am an alumnus of so I won't appear to have a bias.

Having said that, from my understanding the Greek scene at UNC is thriving now more than at any point in the past twenty years. There are other fraternities outside of the Big Four, that I would have rushed today but did not consider ten years ago. I can point to a big turning point in UNC Greek life. After the PhiGam disaster of '96 the University forced all houses to have sprinkler systems installed by 2001. Installing the systems in 100 year old houses wasn't easy and so virtually every house was renovated. Many houses were shut down (not the fraternity but the house) for one to two years; many at the same time. From 2000 til about 2004 many houses were struggling, but not so today. Walking through the houses this year (I'm a few years removed but toured several houses) and meeting a lot of brothers I feel safe to say there are currently about 10 (~1/2 of the total) solid houses to consider. Again when I pledged/rushed I only considered two.

But, back on topic... I can think of several UNC fraternities that at one point initiated women. St. Anthony's hall of course is still pretty similar to the picture of the Brown fraternity; they are an outlier on the Greek scene. Also Lambda Chi at one point, I believe had female brothers; I don't know how good that chapter is now but their house is a beautiful carolina blue. Pi Lamb definitely had women (I saw a composite or two in their bathroom containing ladies); from what I've seen and heard they are a good chapter. I believe several of the "golf course" fraternities went this way too: ZBT, Delta Sig and PKP. I think these have all folded/maybe went local.

ClassicUNC · #6 06-29-2008, 11:46 PM

For those asking about Chi Psi at UNC.. no it's not "Big Four", but it's a very respectable chapter. Beautiful house on the largest piece of property. From what I understand, Chi Psi is the largest private land owner in Chapel Hill (i.e. not the University). But, they do dress like the Wizard of Oz in the composites. It's just their tradition.