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Old 06-29-2008, 02:48 PM
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First of all let me clarify a couple of things: The raid was a cocaine trafficking raid with an unknown amount of cocaine being found(supposedly 125,000 worth, which I think is ridiculous because no one knew about the cocaine and if no one knew about the cocaine why would anyone carry enough to make 100 grand with no one interested in buying it). The amounts of Ketamine and Mushrooms were minuscule and only for personal use. One explanation is that the under cover police baited one of the arrested individuals into producing as much cocaine as he could for a transaction and then the raid went down. Then all of the sudden this large amount of cocaine became a piece of stationary in the house and the individual responsible for the transaction became the owner of that massive amount of coke. The article has an inaccuracy. The police did not knock, they charged the front door, even though they need to knock and ask for access showing the search warrant. I guess they must have assumed that armed fraternity gunmen were holding millions of dollars worth of cocaine were going to barricade themselves and take hostages....not. There were witnesses standing directly outside of the main entrance when the raid happened and their testimony directly contradicts the media reports of a lawful entrance. but...they had plain clothes officers inside the building at the time of the raid and knew by name exactly who they wanted to arrest. But then again there was no arrest warrant, only a search warrant for the main floor of the building. The raid was also performed illegally on the residences of the second and third floor of the building. Some of the victims were in their rooms when police stormed their rooms told them to get on the floor and handcuffed them. Everyone in the building was gathered in a room on the main floor under a thing called investigative detention, where everyone was I.D.ed and asked questions for about an hour. A witness described the experience as shocking, "having police barge into your room and being told to lay on the floor while being handcuffed is not my idea of an ideal Friday night." Many of the residents, who are students are shocked and in disbelief that there was any cocaine dealing in the house. Which I personally find agreeable since I frequent the house quite often and share a couple of beers with my DKE friend. I'm not a fan of hippie stuff like police brutality and media lies but the shit that went down in the DKE house and the media reports thereafter are a bunch of bullshit meant to justify the raid and portray Delta Kappa Epsilon and the fellow fraternities and sororities as the stereotypical uneducated drunkards. Hope this stuff doesn't bring you guys down, you rock!
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:56 PM
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Another news story,

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20...19256-sun.html

includes quotes from a resident of the house. Excerpt:

"Everybody was hanging out at the house -- we get together to watch TV and party a little bit -- and there was a big bang at the door," Andrew Weiner, a resident of the house, said.

"One of the guys goes out, looks down the hallway and comes back and says 'there's a man pointing a gun to our house,' " he said. "Next thing we know there's plainclothes guys everywhere, people are on the floor."

Those who ran out the back door were arrested . . . . "They went through the entire house and took a bunch of us down (for questioning at the police station)," said Weiner, who was released without charges.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:06 PM
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First of all let me clarify a couple of things: The raid was a cocaine trafficking raid with an unknown amount of cocaine being found(supposedly 125,000 worth, which I think is ridiculous because no one knew about the cocaine and if no one knew about the cocaine why would anyone carry enough to make 100 grand with no one interested in buying it). The amounts of Ketamine and Mushrooms were minuscule and only for personal use. One explanation is that the under cover police baited one of the arrested individuals into producing as much cocaine as he could for a transaction and then the raid went down. Then all of the sudden this large amount of cocaine became a piece of stationary in the house and the individual responsible for the transaction became the owner of that massive amount of coke. The article has an inaccuracy. The police did not knock, they charged the front door, even though they need to knock and ask for access showing the search warrant. I guess they must have assumed that armed fraternity gunmen were holding millions of dollars worth of cocaine were going to barricade themselves and take hostages....not. There were witnesses standing directly outside of the main entrance when the raid happened and their testimony directly contradicts the media reports of a lawful entrance. but...they had plain clothes officers inside the building at the time of the raid and knew by name exactly who they wanted to arrest. But then again there was no arrest warrant, only a search warrant for the main floor of the building. The raid was also performed illegally on the residences of the second and third floor of the building. Some of the victims were in their rooms when police stormed their rooms told them to get on the floor and handcuffed them. Everyone in the building was gathered in a room on the main floor under a thing called investigative detention, where everyone was I.D.ed and asked questions for about an hour. A witness described the experience as shocking, "having police barge into your room and being told to lay on the floor while being handcuffed is not my idea of an ideal Friday night." Many of the residents, who are students are shocked and in disbelief that there was any cocaine dealing in the house. Which I personally find agreeable since I frequent the house quite often and share a couple of beers with my DKE friend. I'm not a fan of hippie stuff like police brutality and media lies but the shit that went down in the DKE house and the media reports thereafter are a bunch of bullshit meant to justify the raid and portray Delta Kappa Epsilon and the fellow fraternities and sororities as the stereotypical uneducated drunkards. Hope this stuff doesn't bring you guys down, you rock!
Easy casey jones...

You must have made off with some quality stuff from there.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:30 PM
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Easy casey jones...

You must have made off with some quality stuff from there.
Well, they'd like to get some sleep before they travel, but if you've got a warrant, I guess you're gonna come in.

Now they're busted, down on St. George Street, set up like a bowling pin.
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